Creepy question

lol I’m so confused what the heck are you filing to not leave marks? Are you saying there would be no breach face markings? Just making sure we are on the same page here.

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That kind of was the joke: I consider myself an above-average gunsmith, but even the best metalworker, or the best machine, leaves marks - and quite a lot of them. It’s unavoidable.

Still, you never know. Perhaps I wasn’t joking. Perhaps I am the best gunsmith in the world and none of my breech faces, firing pins, cartridge chambers or bore riflings leave any distinctive marks. I wouldn’t want to sell myself short here :slight_smile:


Lol didn’t know u were a gunsmith. Wouldn’t matter how good you are, the marks they look for are mostly unavoidable, firing pin obviously can’t be avoided, aperture mark, extractor and ejector marks. I’ve always been interested in guns but have learned a lot from my wife’s work. Its pretty crazy what can be done between a good search algorithm and a human I just took a machine learning class so I can now start to appreciate the programs used by law enforcement to match evidence to guns.

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I always enjoy when people forget that casing marks forget a simple truth about them

It is a comparative technology

It’s not something you can take a sample casing and search the entire database which 99.9% of the time doesn’t exist

It’s for when they find a casing and are pretty sure who it came from, so they take the gun they suspect and can confirm wether or not it was that specific gun

Most of that searchable database stuff makes for great Hollywood and feel good PR, but doesn’t exist

My states handgun “registration” database which costs several million a year to “maintain”
Is often used for the purposes of prosecution under 10 times a year

I like to imagine how much I could frustrate a forensic tech, since a large number of my pistols have super easily swapable parts such as extractors, barrels, ejectors etc,

Not including the extra components and aftermarket barrels aswell

Not claiming I could ever hide the evidence perfectly or anything, everyone’s human and will always slip up, but man I could give them some musical chairs from hell lol :joy:

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I say that all the time, about switching out parts but the average criminal isn’t that smart. And you are right it is a comparative technology but there is a huge searchable database, after a tech enters the casing into the system it is compared against all other casings of the same caliber and gun make.

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Just derailing over here.

Why not make a firearm that doesn’t need a firing pin? Or rather a cartridge. Use Electricity.

Like Remington did.

For the rest of what you mentioned, a flathead screwdriver would take care of it.

Just don’t try to hide it. Destroy it.

not a creepy answer

Also he couldn’t because a) people don’t activate the card before they give it to the post office or b) like in my case you can disable the card.

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Send it with only 8 bucks on it.


this thread derailed a long time ago…
Or has it?
I mean… that is still about a “creepy question”, and the “lead derailer” is also OP… :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

That said…
I vote for firing an Ice bullet.


D) actually sent it to him with the exact cost of the conversion!


I asked my housemate whos sister is a mortician about this. signal-2020-11-04-092534

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Now that’s doubly interesting:

1/ “Professionally we shouldn’t read them”: I’m assuming the mortician has a duty to refrain from reading “intimate” data or something, which sounds odd because I doubt there’s much intimacy left for a dead person being prepared by a mortician. They quite literally get know their customers inside and out.

Mortician is an interested profession. I looked into what it takes to become one once, because it’s a job considered a few years ago. But the costs of the studies cooled me off in a hurry.

2/ I’m curious: do you and your housemate always communicate by SMS? :slight_smile:

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No we mostly just talk face to face multiple times a day. We send memes via MMS though. :man_shrugging:

edit: It just occurred to me you might think the screenshot is between my housemate and I. That is actually the conversation between my housemate and his sister who is a mortician.

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Ah right okay. Makes more sense. This raises the question though: how do you take screenshots off your housemate’s phone? Installed a sneaky app when he wasn’t looking? :slight_smile:

Such a strange thing to do. If he’s there in the room, wouldn’t it be easier to pass your phone to show him what’s on the screen?

This said, I’m not surprised. Cellphones really have changed the way people interact.

Here’s something really odd I saw once: I was on the train to Brussels a while ago, and basically the entire carriage was quiet because everybody was busy not talking to anyone else and thumbing away at their screens.

At some point, out of the blue, the guy sitting in front of me, who hadn’t peeped a word so far, said without looking up “Ah! Lol…” without smiling or laughting or anything. I thought maybe he was talking to me and I had missed something. So I said:

“Beg pardon?”
“Ah no, sorry, I wasn’t talking to you. Someone sent me something funny.”
“Er… okay…”

Wtf… If it’s funny I would have laughed, not said “lol” aloud without changing facial expression. So odd :slight_smile:


He sent me the screenshot to share with you wonderful peoples.



There might also be something as the fear of opening a can of worms with the reading. You expect law enforcement to want to know as much as they could… but then you wake up, you are in the real world and they are actually interested in closing the case as quickly as possible.
Just immagine how much more paperwork your mortician would have to fill, @anon3825968, if it decides to investigate each of your implants? :rofl:

Similar effect which causes security focused companies to adopt increasingly weak security measures now-a-days… (rules are in place to avoid the person responsible to get blame, instead to avoid incidents from happening)

Yeah I wanted to get into it too, but at least back in Australia it was nigh impossible to get a job without getting a foot in the door with a funeral home which was like a tightly controlled family business that was pretty impenetrable. That, coupled with study costs just made it a very hard industry to crack into.

Yeah, in Belgium where I looked into it, there’s 1 year of studies to become funeral director (the basic skill) and 1 or extra 2 years to become thanatopracticioner (the next level up - that’s the guys who prepare the corpses for display).

Just like airline pilots, thanatology students must finance their schooling in full. To become the latter, I was looking at spending 250k. Er… I don’t think so.

The reason why I considered that job is because there are basically 3 ways of ensuring job security:

1/ Be an expert in some cutting edge field - high tech and such. I used to be when I got into computer sciences in the late 80’s, but I got tired of chasing the latest and greatest, and wasting my life at work.

2/ Be an expert at some obscure, high-demand skill: I covered that by being certified to do quality insurance in the aero industry, and being a gunsmith specialized in high luxury hunting rifles - and of course by being a specialist in programming languages nobody uses anymore. Ask any COBOL programmer how much they earn :slight_smile:

3/ Work in a field where there’ll never be a shortage of customers, no matter how hard the economy tanks: that includes for example hairdressers and morticians. The former are paid like shit, the latter earn a pretty penny.

That’s why I looked into becoming a mortician. But I gave up on it: the cost of the studies is a little too rich for me, and I’m paid handsomely with the skills I already have anyway.


My grandpa was a mortician.

Worked in San Francisco, and he would tell us about how they used a slide for bodies at alcatraz.

Also, the bodies groan occasionally.

Lastly, he would take the eyes for donation, and kept them in his fridge. Local kid saw it, and their dad confronted my grandpa to ask if he ate eyeballs.

He is also referenced in a book. Body farm I think

The book is Stiff


I’m kinda happy I didn’t get into it… one of our friends in this building is so swamped with work, he looks like hell since the whole pandemic happened.