The world is just showing me how fucked it is every day… and now there’s war 10 hours from here.
Not too bright of a vision of the future…
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Getting big Tech youtuber on the topic could also help!
you could send a few chips and access controllers to random big tech youtubers po boxes and hope for videos 
I got on the Train with the Magnet Video from Codyslab and a Vice article
you could also send cody a magnet lol
Also hitting up more Piercers could work - so that they basically have the chips on their price list and customers instantly see oh they do chip implants too
and if they then have the chips in store already it could really get more people who had no clue about chip implants to get them informed by the studio and maybe also implanted there
sorry grammar is not good up there - i may fix it later but may not. deal with it 
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I really want to try to understand the general confidence a typical Dangerous Things biohacker has in the future right now, not just consider my own subjective perspective.
It’s hard to predict the future, especially this year, but for me personally, I’m optimistic. Yes, the next (at least) few years will be hard (because of covid, and now more so because of the war Russia started), or at least “not that good”, but in the long term, we are as a society heading the right direction. And the war only confirmed it…I mean…no one expected that much support for Ukraine, that much unity, that much collective “fuck you Russia”. Technology, in general, is evolving, people are more and more interested in technology because it’s fun (and not only to do the work). I would bet that if you manage to “hold on” for a few more years, you’ll have plenty of customers. But hey, I’m no economist…this is more a wish than a prediction from my side…but this is how I feel
Ads: you will probably not get that many customers from ads. But I think if you focus the ads not on the products (“hey, we sell implants”), but on promoting a simple video showing what you can do, or something like that, then people will be more likely to “want more information” and find a way to DT.
Giveaway: it’s cheap ads basically, so yeah, go for it It will cost you some time and a small price (giving away a few NeXT chips is much cheaper than paying fu****g Facebook for views). Just make sure the rules make sense and that they won’t force you to send a bunch of stuff to someone who tries to take advantage of a hole in the rules.
Tip: I think that the world is not yet ready for all the implants you sell. I mean yeah, sure, there are people who love magnets and LEDs. I’m talking about the “usable implants”…and at least in my country there simply aren’t many people with smart homes, NFC locks,… even most apartment buildings still have some key system and don’t use electricity at all. So it is hard to find a customer here. So the tip, finally: focus on payments. I bet that every other person I know would at least consider a chip that they can pay with. It’s simply the most convenient thing, it’s something that will improve your life greatly. Find a way to sell more payment chips and people will eventually find a way to the other ones as well. By the way, I’m aware of issues with Apex…I’d just like to say that I think this is the way, this is how you get implants to the hands of most people. The day you tell me I can buy a chip that I can pay with, and I won’t have to take it out in the next 10 years, I’m gonna buy out your whole stock that day 
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With the Apex this has to be done!
I keep dreaming about a linus biohack tips video.
SwatchPay conversion is a thing isn’t it?
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This is my take - from a totally selfish point of view:
Let’s face it: DT is the go-to supplier of implants in the world. If DT goes under, there are no implants no more.
I mean sure, you’ll always be able to get pooly-performing glassies from China or whatever. But long-range flex implants that do interesting thing? Forget about it. Conversion services? Forget it. Sensing magnets? Forget it.
If DT goes, biohacking jumps back 15 years.
I can’t afford to lose DT. DT supplies services and parts that are essential to maintaining some bodily functions I now have that have become an integral part of who I am. I don’t want to go regress back to 100% human. I’m sure many here feel the same way.
Therefore, my suggestion is that someone should set a fund to help keep DT afloat. Those of you like me who need DT to service their augmented bodies and augment them some more, and have the disposable, could pitch in. I’m willing to part with, say 50 to 100 euros a month. If there’s 20 of us, that’s a salary.
Provided said fund is subject to oversight of course. I’m not talking about a slush fund that people sink money into and have no idea what it’s used for. I’m talking a fund in which every penny is accounted for and reporting is done regularly to the sponsors.
Just an idea.
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upvote that post and they might see it ^
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I’m 100 % aboard with everything you just wrote. Actually, because of the OP, I decided to YOLO my order today…not sure what I’ll get but I’m submitting that order today
And yeah, if there ever will be a need for such fund you mentioned (I mean if it’s “DT goes under, or we set up a fund”), then you can count me in.
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I wasn’t going to say it but yea… what @anon3825968 said
I really don’t like the idea of the company that made part of me going under
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Would each of us making our own thread trigger a spam filter? Could maybe catch more eyes lol
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Isn’t that basically DT Club?
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I realized that… 
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The main reason I looked towards you guys was from an off-hand comment from @DeviantOllam in his videos. I think YouTube and video sharing mediums are great to get a new generation of biohackers interested in implants like the ones you guys sell.
What I would suggest, similar to what you were thinking, would be to use the DT YouTube channel to provide testimonials and deep dives into how your customers utilize their implants. By centralizing all these videos into one main channel, you can increase the amount of eyes see your product.
Having everyone make videos and explain their reasoning for using implants on their own channels is great as well, but when someone googles or searches YouTube for RFID implants or Dangerous Things, the first thing you want to pop up is your channel with accurate and detailed information regarding your products and the customer satisfaction you provide.
On top of that, tweaking the thumbnails for the videos to be more eye-popping or descriptive to attract users who are not in the community is important as well. A generic splash screen with text won’t attract as many people as thumbnails with humans holding the implant needle, utilizing a proxmark, or other relevant images.
As a side note, when I originally visited your website there was a page dedicated to differentiating each implant you guys sell, and that helped me out a lot in the purchasing decision. I can’t seem to find it anymore. That would be a good link to have easily accessible that way customers who are just dipping their feet into this community don’t buy the wrong implant for their needs and leave disappointed.
That’s just my 2 cents (really looks like a whole dollar, I wasn’t expecting to type all that ).
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I think this would be the key to more sales.
Currently it seems people that want this tech generally seek it out and research it THEN approach a piercer.
My situation was exactly that. I have no tats or piercings but wanted an implant. I did the research then went into a local tattoo parlour to talk about it. The guys there were completely unaware that such things existed but were very excited when I explained it to them and were keen to go ahead. They were so on board they didn’t even want to charge me for doing it!
It’s probably a bit different here in rural Somerset England than the US, but I think if they were more accessible and promoted in the places that could install them then you would surely get a lot more impulse purchases by people visiting for a piercing or tattoo.
I don’t know how the official installer thing works, but if you like I’d be happy to go into a few places and talk to them about implants. Kind of an unofficial sales rep. I could take a laptop and show them unlocking it with an implant and see if they would be interested in promoting them in their place. If we put together a few pdfs to print out with details and contacts and give them it might pay off too.
If a few of us did this and we all talked to a few piercers there would surely be some uptake.
I got mine through KSEC who I think are your UK reps? If @KaiCastledine is interested in some free local promotion feel free to dm me.
Certainly around here there is a complete lack of awareness of what is possible and how easy it is.
I’m taking my daughter to Bristol to get a piercing tomorrow so I’ll see what this one knows about implants.
In terms of the state of the world, it all feels very end of days. But what better way to box up the existential dread than treating yourself to a cool new implant?
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You bring up a good point.
The piercer I used is on the list of known piercers on the DT page, and it after speaking with him to ensure he still does implants he mentioned that he kept inventory of some of the popular implants so that his customers had easy access to them. He also offered a discount to the actual piercing procedure if you purchased the implant from him, which helps people money-wise as well as making it quicker to get implanted.
Getting piercers to have stock of your product is super helpful in the purchasing aspect as well as the advertisement aspect, as some piercers keep products on display so customers can peruse the stock they have.
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Okay…
@amal we talked once about DT/VivoKeys involvement with Circle City Con; let’s talk again sometime! We are back IRL this year and hosting a biohacking village…yours truly running it . Pirate, a local piercer, will be there doing installs, and @Eriequiet and @darthdomo will be there helping out too! Going to have a media stream going showing off practical use cases and some of the DT guide videos. Proxmarks, Sentero, NorthSense, epoxy-encased syringes, and other semi-interactive displays. We’d all love to have your involvement too though!
I will be creating a village Twitter account…if anyone has name recommendations hit me up because that’s about all that’s stopping me rn.
Seeing the popularity of the idea of LTT + implants, @DeviantOllam, and Modern Rogue’s videos I’ve done my best to reach out to Linus to see if they would be interested in attending Circle. It would be a wonderful opportunity to showcase a hacker con but also implants and the passionate people behind them.
Most here probably know that I was working on some “biohacking research” for a while as part of my MS. Turns out I won’t be able to finish the research though I’ll still graduate. Anway, what this means is that I have some 60-80 pages of biohacking lore and meta. I would love to turn it into a book; think biohacking history + interviews with community members. I’m shopping the idea around for a home atm DM if you know a publisher but for the moment I’ll be submitting to 2600 magazine. I think rn one of the most important moves DT, implants, and human augmentation as whole can do is try and strengthen the community exists while introducing more people to the idea. Besides the BHV at DEFCON and your RFID Toys book there’s not that much out there exposing people to the idea besides each of us individually - not that there’s anything wrong with that.
It’s a hard battle though bc you’re facing a global economic downturn during a pandemic mixed with being in a business that for the most part has associated with it’s deviant nature. There’s a real fear that as DT and implants become more mainstream they’ll lose the close knit community and become bastardized capitalistic nightmare glares at drones. Still though I think society is ready for implants and even if there was mainstream acceptance there would be a segment of us pushing the boundaries. I’m rambling tbh.
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My opinion, I live in south Carolina which is usually last to see major impacts on cost of living. How ever we are currently seeing the impact with gas on the rise, food at a all time high and with all the living increases Rent, mortgage and ex. our initial pay for our hard work is staying the same which makes it a lot harder to afford to play around with extra projects. The idea in the Us about implants are changing quickly, there is still many people who fear that implants are the devil and the governments way to track you at all time what they fail to realize is the government does not need a chip to do that all our smart tv’s, Phones, Watches and many other gadgets we have are already capable of being constantly tracked. For Dangerous things being the main if not only option for implants I see it eventually being the new craze as soon as we can get a confident system for payment implants. Every one I talk to say they would consider the payment Implant if it could connect to their bank and not a 3rd party. "there is one thing that cannot be stopped in the world, EVOLUTION OF TECHNOLLOGY Implants are the future in my eyes. My life has been so much easier with the 6 implants I have, I clock in and out of work and gain entry into the building (now I don’t have to worry about where my ID badge is). My entire house has electronic locks on every door (now I don’t have to carry a house key). My CWP license to carry is stored on a chip and is legal form. My license as well. The only thing I carry on me that is not in a implant is my Bank accounts or payment option which I use my watch for that so I don’t even have to carry a wallet or keys or worry about them because of my implants, I feel the world will eventually want the same thing.
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Thanks guys for a lot of great feedback… I’m just getting around to absorbing it but I won’t be able to actually respond for a few days… one of the things I’m working on right now is reworking some flexClass so we can get those back in stock.
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Well i made a TikTok account and 2 vids where i pay with my hand had 310.4k views and the second one 275.5 views in one week then i had to stop because i waited on the new and improved chip… That one is now in my hand and its healing.
As soon as its healed i resume posting vids there
60% of the interactions are people genuinely amazed and interested and want to know more
The other 40% are the mark of the beast idiots
And people who think i went to a whole lot if trouble to fake the video.
My hope is that when i resume posting the views keep comming and awareness is spreading.
Also
My installer (in the Netherlands) is launching an entire media campaign soon on all social media and television.
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