Side note, the same applies to those who believe in tarot cards or are cult members.
You can’t argue with someone that has the parking break of their brain engaged, at least not productively.
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I was curious about your reply!! 
Truth hurts.
Hurt makes you feel attacked.
if you feel attacked all the time, you start to be an asshole. it’s merely a defensive mechanism.
But ultimately, I think we are the ones to blame, since their response is already known beforehand.
By definition an Schizofrenic individual who is in a state of delusion is… deluded.
To the point they are unable to see anything other than their reality.
And if by an immense force of will you manage to break through and shatter their delusion… instead of acknowledging reality, they will instead shift into a new delusion.
you can’t reach them. Just comfort and provide small breadcrumbs which lead to them slowly walking into a less delusional state. then you might be able to reason a tiny bit… but by then, they would not be using this forum.
The more we try to help, the more “combative” we end up sounding. Thus the angrier they become.
I would even argue that if someone with that level of bonker turns around and accepts any rational arguments…
Then it’s not schizofrenia. it’s just a dickhead making fun of you.
That made me think… This is like a Rock Paper scissors game.
Crazy will allways beat Logic.
Logic beats up Reality.
Reality beats up Crazy.
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I find it odd that they claim to be under mind control to begin with. If you where under actual mind control, or how lawyers like to call it, undue influence, you would be unaware of it.
Or at least some of the manipulators that I’ve encountered loved teaching thought stooping techniques to keep people from doubting, among other things. Like condemning critics, banning critical information, claiming that thoughts can materialize immediately and cause damage to others, then using this to make people feel guilty over having doubtful thoughts, etc…
Long story short, if you’re being controlled, you wouldn’t notice. And the moment you realize that you’re being manipulated, you start to break free, even if getting some false ideas out of your head requires some work, and in some cases, some help. But then again, I’m talking about reality.
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Crazy beats logic
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That’s why!! It’s mind control Lawyers!!
So they make their victims claim they are under undue influence exactly to create reasonable doubt! 
Beyond that… yeah, your point is quite real!
Yep that’s what I’m doing thank you for being literate and intelligent to clearly see I’m just trying to get the other to see if they feel like it’s dangerous and that they’re going to get hurt or something if they try to get removed some doctors have given a little bit of pushback saying that there was nothing there at first but they’ve gotten fired from the hospitals so of course that makes me happy.
I’m a lot more supported than the past 2 years the people who did this did a smear campaign against me and literally had people coming to the hospital to pay the doctors and medical staff to lie to me about several different medical situations.
I’m preparing for the last stages of having the device examined with my surgeon now and she will remove it.
I really really do appreciate you again yes it is superficial and is being removed in a couple weeks to maybe a month from now.
I hope you have a great day and a great weekend keeping awesome and intelligent by the way I love your tats on your picture
THAT is how you respond to somebody who is trying to help you.
Who said anything about mind control , its a foreign object just like the ones on this site, just used for mal intent with many capabilities such as to link the brain to a smart device as BCI ( brain computer interface ) that can be physically seen and identified operating within ones device and environment , you actually see the networks in geo fencing aka google maps or used with other internet WiFi and Bluetooth connection monitoring software.
Which made it easier to catch them , to see the triangulation , if you are not in to computers ill explain, its something called “man in the middle” and it looks likes your doing this through your device however instead the hacker is and has taken full access and for hopes left you with minimal access to portions of you device , where as if you do nor understand how this works they will go unnoticed possibly for years as in some of the people connected to did not notice until I explained what to look for to know if he was connected.
Due to a launcher service that comes with your device, ( usually used to link something like your phone to you desktop , your secondary phone screen for streaming ect you get the point ) to control your device from another device as a admin but you can not see them as a admin in your device because they take over the device by " proc -esses" which is coded into the files which they hide, which you also can unhide since you have access to the real device (not there remote one) but you wont be allowed to change the access process like the remote one, in some case you wont even be able to delete a file in your device , it will say something like " access denied" in red , they code also within the open source of any app and including the main one if you have android its through the frameworks then through the "Google Open Source Project " ( Thats the big one ) you can get a process of almost anything on github nowadays and its not really monitored what you are getting / using the source code for and then other apps nowadays mostly all apps have open source code projects made for people to develop new techniques for improving the software for personal and customer use, basically anyone who adds to it code its like a free developer for that particular software or website / company ,But, now you now hackers also use it for malicious intent ( if you didnt already ).
So unless you go through many sources such as getting rid of the launcher app all together , deleting certificates that were not originally installed on your device and know of all of the hidden files they coded through & apps , Block them so they can be coded back in , block the hidden api’s ( Hence a VPN is not good enough or the best malware protector out there going to it )and have the last part I wont go to because that is a task for law enforcement but ill give you a hint as it is referred to as signaling, sensors tech , hoping , hijacking & spoofing .
This system he uses of things also using the " the internet of things"to make devices look like its in Africa or anywhere for that matter so no one will think its happening where it actually is, but if they find someone , it will be the “man they placed in the middle” which would be you or I for ex my dear not him also it involves the customer based service Amazon AWS satellite for tracking and launching satellites with gps usually used for tracking stars , scientific studies , asteroids things of that nature , normal stuff , but again this is mal intent that the person has , so basically tracking a satellite as a service where anyone can pay and view there satellite in the location of there choice to be launched and settled for the duration of contract with amazon in , lets say this is over your house or your job can monitoring and collect several things, also with the specs of these devices that are implantable just like the ones on this sight can do advanced medical practices remotely, I wont bother you with explaining that though because it may be to much for you research the history of med64 from 1995 George Washington University and Medical Abortion Abilitation and that will give an idea, Just know, some ex classmates , police officers , friends and family deaths are still under investigation due to authorities having to sort out just what did they do to make this tiny object / device so powerful with the capabilities / settings they have one these things putting , Having a nerve to put it in someones body without consent, which is against the law according to Arnold Schwarzenegger passing that bill in the USA , Caiforna I believe in 2011 but dont quote me check.
So basically he made humans became a weapon and they want to know who did they get “them” from and or who coded them. They also have ability to hack any NFC payment system and bio-metric login system and screw up the digital payroll to pay employees of a store they hack whatever they want. Which may not be caught by payroll if they do not know how this works or if the transactions are suddle like in each check $40 hear , extra $7 dollars there, random theft most wont notice unless its extreme , which was another thing they did to get caught , they did the east cost hack on the telecoms. I wont tell you all of the companies he’s worked for , but just , He can get through anything without ever physically touching your device, and its not that he’s the only one who does this type of stuff, he just got caught,
As you see Ive spent about 10 mins educating you unless you also have a back ground in computer as well as energy deregulation and understand how the smart grid and appliance work on the human body and with heat. Which I do . With both work and personal computers and smart devices and with all of his files duplicated in all of the computers I have i just happen to be so luck to catch him with a masked IP address, I think he was just being cocky ,but he’ll pay for it in the end if he keeps running, I dont know why he just wont turn himself in Maybe he’s thinking they will take his parent down first for teaching him this fraud / scam artist lifestyle. I always wondered why his parent did not discipline him for stealing when he got caught, they were just angry at the person who worked there , like I dare you call me for not letting my son get away its just stealing clothes type of attitude lol.
The other people dont know what to do and some even work in computers and cant get him out, but its apart of what i also do for a living so it was really up to me (which i didnt like to having to prove alone) until then no one resisted him and just took the money because of fear ( lol yes fear of the technology he uses) what he and his family were into for over a decade is crazy ! which includes more weird and nasty aspects which I’ll only mention a couple, child endangerment for sexual purposes, smdh what some of these mothers have went through we went to school with that though he was our friend is so sick to think he was raised as a pedophile and human sex trafficker. Its sick to know that a child was raised like this.
But I figured it was something wrong for a while I just didnt think it would be something like this. Just thank good for my multi fascist career choices through the years to understand , because honestly no one else from our circle growing up would have known how to add all of it up, Not even some of my new friends that are cyber gov contractors and one of my biz partners who worked with a major telecommunications company as a developer knew every part of the scam, but hes my ex roommate and a lifetime thief /scam artist .
I used to steal with him from stores as a teenager so i know him if you know what I mean , However others were bribed ( extorted ). With my career was not so easy bribeable. They have offered me on 4 occasions any amount of money I want, the last time was 1 billion to shut up about it , clearly it would have made me look like im involved and of course involving what I said the moneies from I said no. Him , his family our ex friends and ex co workers are under investigation for RICO and money laundering along with other subjects im sure you can guess of like sextortion, I was under the radar with them at first , but Ive cleared myself with all of the hard work of course, I at NO point assisted in anything theyve for over a decade not when were in high school or when we got out 11th grade a senior year our parents let us and a couple of there folks from high school because we were in college ,prep mature kinda ritsy we worked on a cruise ship and we were entertainers , I was literally on the radio 11, 12 grade and the year after high school and was on tour for 2 big time comedians as there opening act . Everyone who had similar outcomes during and after highschool they got them too
Thats why I chose NOT participate , I have changed alot since a teenager ( kinda still a mean girl as you can see when necessary) and Im NOT a perfect angel however , I’ve never stolen from “Human” people to get money , which is what there doing , I just chose to get my money as simple as possible without that type of risk association plus its distinguishing and sick with a “Charles Manson family” in a technological way type of vibe to it.
Lol its seriously not funny , Im just laughing at peoples comments how fucking rude to not know shit like this really happens but, with this guy being the victim of child neglect in high school, I seen him go through this for years and couldn’t understand because the parent is a little over 10 years older than him , so there is a serious mental disconnect of maturity and abuse that was normalized because of him and his friends being gay and there life style with all ten toe nails dead on his feet before the boy was 18 and him telling me about a adult female sexual predator more than likely this was the parents sibling due to the involvement and sexual nature of this case citing possible insect possibly resulting in children. I’m not surprised to see years later of all of whats was entailed.
And who are you , STOP , Like dude freedom of speech is real and still the law online too …lol chill. thanks for your comment TF
Freedom of speech only relates to the interactions between your speech and the government
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I dont know I;ll have to go with “my cousins” on that logic rules in the sense that in the court of law for a prosecutor especially you have to be able to prove that the defendant is guilty without responsible doubt this is why they give people who tell first " incentives" and criminal defense lawyers get paid so much money , funny thing is , if a criminal pays the lawyer with fraudulently money even if they win the case, when its over , the courts still get him for "where did you get that money from " lmao !!! , This is why , when I became an adult , I tread lightly in criminal activities I prefer to be on the up and up , especially figuring out what was being done mentally to us ( the victims ) You can “feed” a BCI ( brain computer interface ) almost anything as a neural network and or algorithm , such as porn , bestiality , licence plate/ tags on vehicles , colors , noses , ect you get the point ) by the way the technology before recently commercialized with the Meta FB Occuls in 2015 , it was availble under many different names .
Sad sick shit man , I’m a millennial whos been online since AOL chat coding Black-planet , Dowelink and Myspace pages for friends which is pretty much the bases of how to run this stuff nowadays simple code HTML vs XHML, copy and paste and your in , you simply get it for free from a hacker sharing forum site like this or of lines or in parts for free or you can pay for a full system from “someone” online. I dont know much about the dark web though , I dont want any parts in that , but its clear they use it as well.
Out of curiosity, what’s the motive for all that?
I assume “they” put huge amounts of money into setting up and maintaining this hacky network as well as developing implants more advanced than anything we’ve ever seen. If you include the R&D, the global bribery and all that we’re talking millions. So how is this profitable and why go though all these risks instead of investing in something else?
You might as well open a high tech company and make billions selling medical implants and military tech at this point.
and what do they have to gain from tracking a bunch of normal people.
the logistics don’t make sense when there are a million other ways they could track you that don’t involve secretly manufacturing highly advanced implants, sedating and inserting them into random unwilling people all while making sure everyone involved in this dark conspiracy keeps quiet.
all for what?
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I’m lost on the
“They bribed everyone”
Can’t speak for everyone here, but pretty sure a legit DR has a lot more on the line than any of us hackers, so they’d be against bribes
…shit half of us probably break some kind of law by lunch for nothing more than the shits and giggles of it…
All that to say, wouldn’t DRs rate higher on the ethical totem pole and harder to bribe and pay off than some random chuckle heads on the internet?
…although… admittedly a large percentage of hackers in general, would probably do the opposite of whatever someone tried to bribe them to do, on chaotic principle 
My point is, you should trust your Drs…
If you really TRUELY think they are in on it, get a second opinion and tell them you have concerns of being stalked via your identity etc
I mean… end of the day we all know you won’t listen to anyone who doesn’t agree with your version… because how it goes…
But I at least took my shot at pointing you in the right direction
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Fact of the matter is. None of the OPs here are worth the cost of tracking. They’re not worth the cost of advanced imaginary implants. No one cares. I feel like these delusions are rooted in a perceived self-importance. People need to just get over themselves.
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I’d agree
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It put me in mind, on reflection, when I worked for a bank taking payments for loans. I’d be like “Can I get your account and routing number?” Reminder, these people called me. I did not call them.
They’d say like “How do I know you won’t steal it?” Someone complained about my response of “You don’t have enough money for me to lose my job over.”
Most people found that a pretty reasonable answer and it pretty much always put them at ease. But one person asked for a super visor. Insecure much?
One guy responded with “Look at the payments I make. I probably do.” But was amused by my “Okay but do you really think I’d get away with it? This is a recorded line…”
This is the kind of behavior that got me promoted really fast, somehow.
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That post sounds more like Machine Learning Prompt than anything else in this thread XD
Sorry, but the topic came out of nowhere! =P
Yea I originally thought wildtrick was insinuating that they were implanted against their will… so the gov can get away with not paying their loans?
I was like… bold if you to assume the gov takes loans or pays for anything
I’m not sure if wild beings in this thread or not they have a few non foil posts elsewhere, so not really clear what’s up with that
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