Much appreciated.
Thankyou, but no. The problem for me is not the side of the wall I’m on, it’s the wall.
Let’s divide DT Club into 3 portions. Financial, Access, and Information.
Financial. Sales, discounts, incentives, etc. Absolutely zero problems here. In fact, I see it as a net positive.
Access. By which I mean early access, or perhaps even priority access. The Texas meetup Airbnb slots went first to DT Club, then to everyone else. Totally fair. If a new product or a fresh load of a previously out of stock product were to drop, I see no reason why paying DT Club member shouldn’t go to the head of the shipping list. As long as it’s above board that that’s what’s going to happen. Same with guinea pig selection. Only available to DT Club, or DT Club first, fine. I can see people begging to get into guinea pig, or jumping onto DT Club just to get access to a particular trial as being problematic. Perhaps a seniority system? First shot at that kind of thing goes to people with 1yr, second to 6months??? Just spitballing.
Information. This is the one that rubs me the wrong way. DT is both a business and a community. As a business, I get it. As a community, problems abound.
Stuff like lab tours, or a video of you using the new laser to open a Diet Coke, or even just showing the gas plasma sterilizer working, not a problem.
What becomes a problem is walling, or potentially walling development / discussion / collaboration.
(I have never in my nerd-life had opportunity to pull out the following nerd-argument so please excuse my nerd-gasm)
I summon Shrodinger’s Cat!!!
However, I’m going to replace the box with DT Club, and the cat with Titan2 / magnet development. Because that’s what I’m most familiar with here due to my interests. {Other forum members may have identical experiences with different products, NExT2 development comes to mind, etc, etc.}
Anyone with DT Club could simply peek in the box, see that there was nothing to see, cat’s alive, all is good.
From my view, box is closed. The one piece of info I got from @tac0s (see previous) is that development was in DT Club. So now, I know there’s a cat in the box.
While DT club members still know the cat is alive and well, I haven’t gotten a look in, so alive or dead, is there an ongoing magnet development discussion that I’m locked out of, or not? Only Shrodinger knows. Which means both are true.
With the Titan2 news publicly breaking, I received:
So now the development in DT Club is confirmed, I have most definitely been walled off from discussion and participation in a major development on a product that I’m deeply interested in. Also the cat is so so dead.
So for DT Club, there never was a discussion, for me there was always a discussion, I was just locked out, and here’s the kicker, prior to this very thread / topic, BOTH WERE EQUALLY TRUE.
Which means if you were in DT Club, you probably don’t see the big deal, and if not (and you were interested) you kind of feel like you’ve been kept out in the cold.
And that is it. From the time I learned of it, until today, nearly a year, I was locked out of discussion that (for me) actually existed due to Schrodinger’s Club, on a subject that I’m deeply interested in. And I’m not happy about it at all.
I can deal with this, especially as now that we’ve ripped the lid fully off the box, I can see just how alive the cat is. I might be the only one to voice the complaint, and I DO NOT enjoy doing so, but I’m certainly not the only one to feel this way.
Another fine example of nergasm Schrodinger’s Club.
Nor do I think there are not others similarly unhappy with what they perceive to have lost to the DT Club wall. This whole thing works directly against having happy cyborgs. As long as people can’t see what’s being witheld from them, then stuff is DEFINITELY being witheld, and the stuff will always be the very stuff that that person cares about most. It’s practically designed to make unhappy cyborgs, or at least resentful ones.
Like I said before, I don’t like bringing this up at all, but few would, and if you’re not experiencing it, you’d never see what it actualy costs our community.