A Discussion on Sensing-Only Biomagnet Development

[The13Beast]

Yes! I would LOVE something like this but, kike @Zwack said, the Northstar implant isn’t what I’m looking for. Also, powering it would be problematic. But it would be awesome!

[yeka]

[LIVE] Genetic Modification To Sense Magnetic Fields - Whose Gene #11

@Coma

implantable compass

Let’s just hope the Sentero will become implantable 1 day.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Coma

I’d still love to have an implantable compass of some sort…

@Coma

the magnetic sense of various animals (and I’m pretty surprised how many animals have one!

You might already have one!
Don’t quote me on it, but a couple of years ago, I saw a some scientific “mentions” on Humans having a natural magnetic sense ability, I don’t have the information or references to hand, just something I saw in passing.
I might be worth investigating the validity…

[Pilgrimsmaster]

Just so you don’t think I’m full of shit or pulling your leg, some quick search results (mixed bag)

[Atilla]

Can Humans Sense Magnetic Fields?

[Coma]

@Atilla and @Pilgrimsmaster - yep, I even read a bit about that, and thanks for the video! But problem with that, like with many other subconscious things, is the usability of it…
I’d be happy enough to be somehow aware of the magnetic field. It doesn’t have to be a vibrating implant or something, it would be cool enough to instinctively know north or something like that, but I currently don’t have the conscious ability to do so…
Maybe it’s possible to train it, somehow… gonna do a bit more research!

oh, and…

@Pilgrimsmaster

Just so you don’t think I’m full of shit

I would definitely never ever think that!

@Pilgrimsmaster

or pulling your leg

…okay, that might happen from time to time

[amal]

@JPlowman

How do magnets “move”? Magnetic fields that are emitted from various sources come into contact with a magnets magnetic field and cause small changes in the magnets magnetic field. These changes in the magnetic field act upon the physical magnet making it move or vibrate slightly.

My guess is the magnet could be considered similar to an antenna. A larger magnet has a larger or stronger magnetic field and is more able to be affected by an outside magnetic force.

The drawback is a larger magnet has more mass and is less likely to be moved by an equivalent magnetic force.

Biomagnet mass, inertia, momentum, and sensitivity

[JPlowman]

I like the video. After a quick watch I think that mostly aligns with what I was thinking and trying to write out. I’ll definitely rewatch it again for further absorption.

[Longstache]

Years and years ago there was a study floating around about a device like this giving a bunch of people a very high quality sense of direction North Paw: Vibrating Compass Anklet Kit - IPPINKA but I’m having trouble finding it. I’ve thought for years about how to develop a sense of north passive implant but it’s a very difficult thing.

You need some sort of detectable sensation that doesn’t damage tissue, can be easily integrated and used by the brain (so not something you have to look at and check like the northstar implant), some low energy way of seeing north, of actuating something to change the location of sensation.

Maybe if we ever get access to neuralink style electrodes and an extremely tiny compass switch with 8 outputs we could maybe make such a passive powered compass, but I’m not holding my breath for anything soon.