Apex MEGA vs Apex Flex Spectrum (Fast Blink)

Hey everyone! :waving_hand:

Trying to wrap my head around the VivoKey lineup before buying. Could you check my math and logic?

I’m comparing the Apex Mega ($389) and the Apex Flex Spectrum Fast Blink ($429). Am I right that the only real difference between these two is the LED? As in, the Mega is “blind” and the Flex Spectrum has the blinking RGB?

Also, just to be sure: does the standard Apex Flex differ from the Mega only because the Mega is a larger round disc with a bigger antenna? Do they share the exact same chip inside?

One more thing. Is the Flex Spectrum Fast Blink basically the most expensive and top-tier product you can buy on the site right now? I want to get the absolute best and most packed device available.

My main use case will be using it as a crypto wallet. Which one of these two would be better for that? Thanks in advance!

The Mega is flex-y bio-polymer while the Spectrum is hard bio-resin to help protect the LED, the spectrum is thicker and rigid

There’s some room for personal opinion on “best” product, but probably the most capable would be a Module Apex Ring Conversion:

The Module antenna has by far the best range, and the ring conversion is the only Apex implant with Fidesmo Pay enabled, although no LED if that matters to you

Yes, all of the Apex line, as well as the FlexSecure, use the same chip

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Actually I think the Apex Ring conversion in module format is the most expensive top-tier product you can buy right now.

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I, uh, forgot to toggle Mega as out of stock :face_with_peeking_eye:

If you really want one, we’re happy to sell you one because whoops. But it’s going to be an in person event only special offering until we’re out of them.

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Here’s a comparison between the fast and slow blink

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ive got an unused Mega lying around that i never got around to installing. i posted a for sale thread if someone wants it :slight_smile:

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Just adding a link

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Could you please clarify what the Apex Ring conversion looks like once it has been converted into an implant?

Will it look approximately the same as a standard Apex Flex (Narrow)? The photo on the product page seems to suggest that.

Or is it possible to have it made in the same form as the Spectrum implant, with the round shape and LED?

Also, as I understand it, the main difference between the Apex Ring conversion implant and the standard Apex implant line is that it supports Fidesmo Pay, allowing it to be used as a payment card. Is that correct?

Are there any other differences, or is that the only one?

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I thought there wasn’t a choice between the Fast and Slow versions. Am I mistaken?

Could you clarify that for me? On the website, I only see the option to select Fast Blink. (I’ve attached a screenshot.)

Bro, how come you never ended up using the MEGA implant?

Did you decide to go with a different implant instead? Which one? And why did you choose it over the MEGA?

Yup.

That is one of the three options on the product page : )

That is the only practical difference–the other being it is a conversion.

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There are slow blink versions out there. I think nobody was ordering those so Amal asked me to only populate fast blink last run. Since they’re not “in stock” right now you’d have to specifically ask for a slow blink one, then I could populate it for you and send it to DT for fabrication into an implant.

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I wanted 2 apex and acquired 3 unintentionally. So now i just have the spare mega that i never put in

wanted to give back to the community, open to offers :slight_smile:

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Could you please explain how the ring is converted into an implant, who performs the conversion, and under what conditions it is done?

I noticed that the transparent coating shown on the product page looks a bit more handmade and less industrial than the coating on the standard Apex implants, so I was curious about the manufacturing process.

Regarding the form factor, I’d specifically like the round version with the LED, similar to the Apex Spectrum. You mentioned that this is possible, but could you explain how it’s done? As far as I understand, the original ring doesn’t have LEDs. I can see how it could be converted into a Narrow-style implant, but how is the Spectrum version made?

Do you have any photos of a converted ring in the Spectrum form factor?

Also, do you have any information about how this implant behaves during an MRI? Is there any risk that it could be damaged or stop working?

The coating is exactly the same. We do them in house :slight_smile: Flex devices have always been hand made.

Regarding the antenna options, all of our smart card implants use the exact same antennas. The one difference is we strike-out the “Apex” on the flexSecure variant.

No materials of concern in terms of safety. There is one report of a 7T 13T MRI frying an implant–but that was an x-Series so the ferrite likely came into play which the flex implants do not have.

The only difference is the little black chip–it’s from an Apex ring instead of a fresh package.

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I can confirm that: I have the apex module and the ring conversion module and the form factor and coating look 100% the same

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By the way, where can I buy an Apex Ring? Could you send me a link, if it’s available somewhere?

I’d like to test it first before ordering the implant conversion service.

I noticed it’s currently marked as Out of stock on the VivoKey website.

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Vivokey stopped making their own wearables

Cybernetic makes the same thing, but under a different name now:

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Oh, that’s great, thanks!

By the way, why is the Barricade so much cheaper?

Does it retain all the same functionality as the Apex Ring, including the ability to use it as a payment card (that’s the killer feature, and the main reason why it’s worth having the device converted into an implant)?

if you’re talking about me it was a 13t MRI that seemingly fried my xmagic <3

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