Bears vs. Penguins

I guess the next deciding factor would be if the Penguins can lure the Bears to battle in the water. :man_shrugging:

All bears can swim, but some better than others. Penguins still have the superiority of numbers, but they are shit on land, they can barely march on snow and ice, I don’t imagine penguins doing very well in the jungles of South America or the Andes…

After the war is over, there may need to be some small expeditionary conflicts.
For example IF the Bears win, we have Penguins in NZ (Some VERY close to where I live) BUT we don’t have any Bears ( with the exception of a few in a couple of Zoos )

Same goes for Australia…they have penguins, but no bears; well; except they have drop bears, but they are only bears by colloquial name, They are actually marsupials

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2/3 in the favour of Bears!
Are you surprised by the results @Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha ?

All others
Here’s the link to the poll to vote or change your vote

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No, just disappointed :classic_tongue:

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Reading through this I think everyone skipped over birthing rates and how this would probably be a very long term war since there is no efficient transportation and weaponry involved.
Bears would probably not be able to recover from any losses (heck they can barely sustain their population without the war).
Despite what we think penguins would have a vastly better mobility by swimming away from danger and to new places. Bears can swim too but nowhere near the same range and agility, they have no chance of reaching islands and crossing seas.

It’s not all about the mele fighting. In a long term war bears would progressively die off chasing a phantom opponent who’s numbers never seen to go down.

Also my assumption is that both don’t become magically sapient and start using tools but they just have a instinctual hatered of each other for some reason and remaining wild with the same abilities as they do now.

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What if there was a hybrid?

#MakeLoveNotWar

aka

Would it be an egg or live young?
I guess that would depend on the mother?

Female penguin the baby would be birthed as an egg

Female bear the baby would be born live

If we follow naming conventions, the male would lead the name
So,
Female Penguin + Male Bear = Beaguin
Male Penguin + Female Bear = Pengear

I wonder what each would look like :thinking:

Also, @Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha how many times have I derailled your PvB thread?!

Sorry
:face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

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I don’t think it really can be derailed, being a somewhat derailed concept to begin with

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That’s a Beaguin for both of them

I remember the image of a bear headed penguin and I thought it was from Futurama butI can’t seem to find it

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Our AI overlords have opinions.

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I love social experiments, and trying to predict outcomes.

I KNEW somebody would use AI to make some images.

I gave myself one guess as to who it would be.
You were not it.

But im not dissapointed, nor in the results.

Bizzarely the penguin head looks more formidable.
A pity there wasn’t a banana for scale

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Haha, I am not surprised it was an experiment given how low hanging of fruit it was.

We’ve been busy with redacted :wink: and also redacted :metal: so I haven’t been following the forum as much as I should. It seemed like a fun way to pop in.

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Taking bets!

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Went to a Christmas lights at the zoo event tonight, which I totally recommend, and of course had to grab some bear/penguin related pics:

Some anti-war propaganda:

If bears and penguins never meet, then explain this:


Checkmate, zoologists.

Ever vigilant warriors on the night watch:

Turns out bears really do sleep at night, so they set up a decoy:

Bonus, fantastic lizard:

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What!? I thought that you were into bears!? What’s with the change of heart now that you’ve joined team penguin?

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I still havent voted, I am still sourcing non-biased data.
Even if I was team bear :bear: Just because I find something that goes against my current thinking, doesnt mean I shouldnt share it.
I’m not Team Bear nor Team Penguin.
I like some Bear things :bear: I like some penguin things :penguin:

Although this thread is a light-hearted possible social experiment by Aox, its not too dissimilar to the political divide.

In reality, when broken down MOST people agree about MOST things, there are just a few topics that people dont agree on, and they get passionate about it which inturn creates divide.

If you really got honest answers from everyone, i’m pretty sure nobody is going to agree 100% with everything thing on their side of the political divide, but they have likely chosen that side due to a number of influences.
Unfortunately, people are susceptible to making their decisions based on manipulated information and influenced by normal cognitive human bias.

Here are a number of biasises that I can think of that are appropriate to emphasise my point.

I was going to put them in order of what I thought was most to least influential, but decided to randomise so you can make your own decision.

Anchoring bias:
first information

Availability heuristic bias:
information from TV etc

Bandwagon effect:
belive something because others do. “group think”

Choice supportive bias:
I made choice so I must me right ignoring negative information.

Confirmation bias:
only look at results that suit your beliefs. “google” search which is likely skewed to your beliefs

Ostrich bias:
ignore negative information which promotes ignorance

Outcome bias:
Decide on right or wrong based on outcome.

Selective perception:
Ignore what you don’t like notice what you do like

This Bias term is a much newer one to me, although I was familiar with the concept but it fits well here

Salience Bias:
information that is the most prominent/ loudest is overemphasized, by this I mean, the “squeaky wheel” “he with the loudest voice…”
Some people are so passionate about their point of view they just won’t shut the fuck up, and their message is everywhere, It doesnt mean its right (or wrong) just the most “in your face”

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For some reason I only saw this post now. I’m here to ask: you guys know Chapman’s brothers Unhappy Feet,dont you?

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For what it’s worth, I tried to make a joke with… phrasing… and failed…

:twss:

:man_facepalming:t2: :sweat_smile:

I’m pretty familiar with biases and the ways that they can be used to manipulate people. You probably know why this is.

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Or pear.

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Bear pear chair bear

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