Cloning iClass 16k/16 card

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@datboidakky

ideally small form factor but that’s not the important bit here

Yeah. that’s good.
treat it like a prototype, just focus on getting it working first, the size/form factor can com later.
I already have a couple of ideas for you.
but if you can get a full size card for testing it will effectively remove range/coupling as a variable and you can focus on the important bit.

Two of my ideas, you wouldn’t need a PM3

• Can you get a spare card that is enrolled and working?

• Can you modify your current card.

if yes to either of these, and you know what form factor you would like, it would be super easy to turn a card into a fob or similar.

@datboidakky

I’m able to understand a lot of the processes and command line work.

that’s a good start.

Do you have a ProxMark3?

if you are wanting a glass xSeries sized option, that will get much more tricky.

As for the cloning, iClass is not my strong suit.
I would be referencing the following

Cloning an HID iClass credential to your flexClass

Help how to clone iclass/picopass

This is the droid you are looking for When it comes time for an implant… https://whensoontm.com/

So You Want To Implant An HID Card

THIS POST IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. Additions / Corrections are requested. Ever since the introduction of flexClass (and even sometime before then), I’ve seen a good deal of folks, especially new folks, looking for assistance in cloning an HID access card onto an implant. HID’s system is weird and not especially intuitive, and I wanted to write this as an informal “guide” to what HID cards are cloneable since I suspect cloning these things will become much more popular in the future. At some point…

Types of HID iClass cards

Here is an overview and comparison of all main HID card / badge types: iCLASS® Seos iCLASS SE® iCLASS® Crescendo® HID Proximity iCLASS® Seos iCLASS® Seos access cards by HID include four subgroups, compatible with a number of readers and classified accordingly. All groups are SIO enabled , high-security , and applicable to both microprocessors and smartphones . 1. HID® iCLASS® Seos® 500x This is a high-frequency card which provides the option of a dual identity in a single credential, e…

Also I would be asking the following for assistance if I got stuck (the authors of the above links)

@philidelphiaChickens @NinjuhhNutz @NiamhAstra

Out of their own necessity, they have all done the research and experimentation.

@NiamhAstra actually developed the FlexClass with Amal and he may be able to direct you to chip / card sources

Have you read the card and seen how much data is actually been used or how much is free?

I know there was going to be a batch of the 16kb FlexClass made, so down the track, this may be your option.

@datboidakky

either to flexclass which is far too expensive for what I want since I don’t intend to implant (yet)

I’m not sure of the cost of the chips themselves, but if you do decide to implant one inside you, you are paying for the proven safety of the implant and the guarantee that comes with it.

Not a great answer, but I hope you can at least pull something of use out of it.