Drone Warfare Protection, Questions

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So i know in Ukraine they switched over too fiber optic drones, But for a brief period they were using Wireless drones, i imagine in some scenarios they still do. I was advertised “Drone Disrupters” Which was probably overstock of some tech they are not using over there anymore.

My main curiosity is with civilian tech, maybe stuff from a old rc car, or some kid with a flipper with a esp32 on top. or a farm house with a yagi antenna.

If war broke out and we needed to protect ourselves. what could we do to stop most drones electronically. i figure a 12 gauge with rat/bird shot would deal with it quickly, I’m trying learn the tech side of it.

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I just want to be pointed in the right direction, Maybe some book recommendations. I have access to a Hackrf, However i dont want too experiment with it, i can get a cheap broken flipper, Would preferably like too learn more about the GPIO side of it all.

Im good with a Soldering gun. it would be a cool project taking apart a broken RC car and uilizing the parts for a Flipper Gpio board:). I need to learn more though, Youtube Channel recommendations, Books, Articles, Podcasts, everything would be greatly appreciated.

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hide. the rate of innovation happening in this area will mean an actual war breaking out here will be using the latest fully autonomous killbox tech with no operator and no escape. however, hiding is actually easier than you think… some guys were showing how the latest heat / IR camera tech can be thwarted by a simple umbrella while you walk around.

there are special drone rounds for rifles that do much better than shotguns. look into it.

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Drone rifle rounds beat shotguns any day

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Then somebody puts a shotgun on a drone, Then an antidrone rifle round to take down the shotgun drone, etc, etc. etc. Thus leading to…

That said, if you’re interested in all purpose jamming (assuming we’re still talking RF controls) it’s a simple matter of building a transmitter that overwhelms the legitimate control signal. So if you know the approximate RF spectrum, build a transmitter that absolutely screams all across that frequency range and you’ll drown out the control system. (In war this will attract attention. In peace this will attract the direct attention of the FCC, either way someone will eventually find you and it ain’t gonna be good. )

But beware the afore mentioned tech race, there are counter - counter measures and so on and so forth.

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Yeah the only thing you’ll be jamming is your own comms.. a modern war fought here won’t involve such archaic stuff. At best you’d be jamming your neighbors attempt at piloting their own drones, attempting some kind of home grown response.

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I think you mis-spelled childish. Some kind of childish response. I could totally see a few neighbors going to war in the neighborhood this way.

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No idea what the context is here but it looks like a civilian getting attacked by a drone in the middle of a city. The guy apparently survived.

This kind of thing is apparently becoming a reality now.

I feel like having a personal rapid deployment anti-drone drone that takes out a drone that’s targeting you might be an effective option that doesn’t run against gun laws.

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From what i read online: russia hunting down a civillan food vender in southern ukraine.

In essence: warcrimes yet again.

Good news, he survived Volodymyr Zelenskyy shares video of Russian 'drone safari' attack on Ukrainian vegetable seller - ABC News

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Yeah the Portuguese in the video says “Russian drone pursues and attacks civilian vegetable seller in Ukraine; man survives seriously injured”

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They’re as bad as each other IMO, the day before a Ukrainian drone tried to attack the Novorossiysk Russian Naval Base, but was jammed and crashed on Arkhipo-Osipovka beach in Gelendzhik, killing 7 people (3 children) and injuring 40 more.

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I don’t think you should blame Ukraine for that.
Russians were shooting, not jamming, the drone.
They started the war and they decided to shoot a drone flying over/towards a crowded area.

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I can certainly blame Ukraine for launching a drone and having it travel over civilian areas, whether shot down or jammed.

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Never forget that blame is just a game of how far back in causal events you want to count back to. Russia invaded which caused Ukraine to respond.. go far enough back and it’s all God’s fault for the big bang.

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I’d disagree, as respectfly as possible. The entire front is a warzone, and it’s in civilian territory. It’s not possible to fight only on military owned and occupied property.

This is double true when you’re being attacked in your own country. Ukraine didn’t ask for this, and the very clear point should be made that in the two examples, Ukraine was attacking a military target, with clear intent. While russia was hunting a guy trying to sell vegetables, with equally clear intent.

At the end of the day, Ukraine is defending itself, russia is attacking for land / power / posterity.

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Whilst I agree that Russia is the instigator in this, the logistics are undeniable. This wasn’t defence, it was an attack, but he naval base they were targeting is 40KM closer to Ukrainian-controlled territory than the beach the drone was shot down in. As long-range strike drones don’t fly 3-4k feet in the air it would have had to be flying blind to travel so far and completely off course.

My only theory is that the drones cameras and GPS (if there were any) were disabled far earlier in the flight, but the pilot continued for another 20 minutes in the wrong direction. It was nowhere near where it was supposed to be before being shot down.

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I seriously doubt cameras and gps could be disabled while still allowing a pilot any sort of control what so ever. At these distances actually, there are no pilots. Likely gps was disabled and the drone itself proceeded without any human control at all.

The target was military, but the realities of war made it end up on a civilian beach. Considering the fact the Russians continually target civilian population centers with inbound missile attacks, I can only shrug my shoulders.

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Then the biggest surprise to me is the drone managing to stay above land when targeting a naval base, uncontrolled you’d think it would head straight out to the black sea, not make a left turn and hug the coastline, passing 3 large towns on route.

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There’s been crazy advances in drones. Early models jammed and crashed when they lost their control signal. Newer ones follow visual maps with a primitive AI guidance. Following the coast to get to a target is actually very likely, as it’s easy to differentiate land / sea and thus follow the coast line.

I’m not familiar with the specific route / path / terrain, just commenting on the way modern drones find their way by “seeing” and following terrain, which can make for some non-intuitive routes.

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Why would you think that? When normal operation of what amounts to a collection of consumer electronics is interfered with, either through RF jamming or lead bullets, the only smart expectation to have is no expectation at all. Anything could happen.