after running the command line
hf ic dump --ki 0 this is what showed up .
hopefully i get a little closer to actually copying this card . fingers crossed
Now weāre getting somewhere!
This is what youāre looking for. Blocks 6-9 are what you want to copy to your new card
is the link that @Pilgrimsmaster sent earlier, and it spells it out pretty straight forward for you.
hf ic wrbl -b 6 -d A30303030003E017 --ki 0
for block 6 and duplicate for 7-9 with the appropriate data, all caps, no spaces.
after writing blocks 6-9 manually, do the dump again to verify the cloned card matches the original and give it a try!
ok i hope it did it correct.
i duplicated blocks 6-9 like u mentioned and added the appropriate data. i did the ic dump info and as u can see in the new card blocks 6- 9 are the same . the only number i noticed isnāt the same is block 0 my original data numbers are different then the copy card. is that normal or did i miss something?
hereās
a picture of the hf ic dump info on new card. let me know if i did it write from the original card ?
is my card really copied ? crossing my fingers
i cant try it out till i get back to work but from what u see do you think i did it correct?
You canāt change the UID but I believe from other peopleās comments that it is more concerned about the content of the card itself.
I assume that it uses some form of challenge/response with the card, but I have not looked into it.
If everything except block 0 is identical then you should be good. As you canāt modify parts of block 0 (maybe all) then this shouldnāt be a problem.
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blocks 6- 9 are identical
block 2,3,10,11,12,13,14,15,16, are not exact copy.
is that normal ? i was only told to copy blocks 6-9 from above. was i suppose to copy every
block or just from 6-9?
maybe blocks 6 threw 9 are the only ones necessary to copy and the rest are just fillers . just thinking outside the box
Unfortunately this may be all for naught. Anything past block 7 is going to be SE blocks which arenāt cloneable.
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Good catch! I didnāt even pay attention to anything past block 9! Iāve been so buried in my own projects, I guess Iām used to that. Still no progress on the SE cards?
SE cards are incredibly tricky and have yet to be cracked. Never say never, but theyāve been out for long enough with very little progress, I suspect it will be a long time, if ever, before theyāre cracked.
Thereās a very good paper on the original iClass security issues, called āHeart of Darknessā.
As I understand, SE cards have those extra filled data blocks with data that is encrypted with the UID. Since we canāt change the UID on these cards and we donāt know exactly how these extra blocks are encrypted, we donāt know how to decrypt and clone them to a new card.
Fingers crossed! One day itāll happen and we will know exactly how theyāre encrypted and someone smarter than me will figure out a way to reverse engineer! By then, there will be new more secure tech that will start the cycle all over again.
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so if i understand well the card i copied blocks 6-9 onto the new card really isnāt completely a copy of my original card since not every block was copied as well nor can they be if i understood correctly?
The short of it is that youāll likely not be able to use the cloned card on many readers, depending on how theyāre configured. Blocks 6-9 are what youāll need for any terminals that are not looking for the SE section of your card. If you clone blocks 6-9 and none of the readers are working, itās more than likely that theyāre looking for the SE data. Unfortunately, that data cannot be properly cloned.
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can i know what SE section of the card means?
Any time anything secure is broken, there will be a rush to develop something new and more secure. Itās an arms race that will never end. Non-SE has been broken for a long time, and SE is still somewhat a mystery, and yet it sounds to me that HID is working on even more secure systems.
Iām not sure I follow. Are you asking if thereās a way to decode SE blocks, how to find SE blocks, how SE works, or something else?
Any data stored after block 9 will almost certainly be SE.
I thought what āSEā means was the question.
Secure Encryption?
Self Erasing?
Suicidal Elephants?
Aha! Iād guess SE means Secure Encryption/Edition but HID literally brands it as āiCLASS SEĀ®ā.
Why Apple has iPhone SEs as the brand name is the real question.
i didnāt know what SE stands for
Iām new to this cloning world.
i just thought buying the proxmark3 would be able to solve my issue of making copies of my work card .
if what your telling me the picopass cards cant be copied for security reasons i guess i spent money that i could of spent elsewhere
the card at the bottom reads
HID iclass DP
no SE wriiten on the card.
so maybe its not a SE card?