The hospital strikes again…
I am currently sitting in the waiting room of a hospital in Germany, waiting for my brain scan. Thirty minutes before I got here, I was about to get tossed into an MRI scanner to get some images done. Just before I got in, however, the doctor rushed in to tell me he needed more information about the NExT Implant in my hand.
I talked to him for a bit (he was really interested and open to proceeding anyway) but then he went to speak to the MRI technician. When he came back, he said there were no studies regarding microchips in humans, and that animal testing wasn’t enough for them. I asked if we could do a 1.5T MRI just to be safe, and I even offered to sign some papers taking responsibility for any potential damage to me or, most importantly, the scanner. They refused, and now they’re doing a CT scan instead.
I regret telling them in the first place, and I would recommend that anyone who needs to get an MRI stay silent about their implant.
My question is: where do I sign up for MRI studies to test the safety of chips? Is there a doctor out there looking for people to participate in such studies?
The NExT is identical materials to the Spark 2, just different “software” on the silicon. For DT products we do have a statement though at
If they are looking for an MRI study of microchips in humans in an MRI then they are straight up lying to you or fucking stupid because tossing humans into an MRI to test devices is not how MRI testing is done.
They said that they did some research about how chips and MRIs react and that they did not find any studies about chips and humans in a scanner…
The question i have is what must be done to change that? Is there anyone out there who has the recources and the will to do the “official” testing to help the chipped guys get a complication free MRI? Who requests those kinds of tests?
they won’t find anything like that because nobody studies medical devices in an MRI that way (in humans)… testing is done with tissue analogues with monitoring devices connected. who in their right mind would say “well we need to see if X will explode in a human if they go into an MRI machine… Larry, you’re turn to see if you explode or not… get in the MRI buddy…” … that is just not how it is ever done ever.
Thanks for the paper!
I think what they want to see is some kind of official document which states that those things are safe to put in an mri, singed by some med authority guy…
Ill talk to them and show them the paper. Not much hope though…
I will try…
But they use a very effective strategie known as doing fucking nothing for 3 hours to then tell you that its just going to take 3 more hours untill anything happens
After a long, drawn-out wait, I’m finally out of the hospital. They let me go after about seven hours. I spoke with every radiology technician in the hospital, only to get this result:
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No fucking pictures!
The MRI technician said there wasn’t enough information about my implant. I explained that the tests were performed using the exact same implant from the same company, but he wouldn’t proceed. I asked how they plan on scanning people with such implants in the future when they become more common. I also mentioned that I found it unbelievable they refused to scan me, even with papers proving it’s safe and has been done many times before.
Then they asked if I would be fine with a CT scan instead. I signed the paperwork and waited another two hours. Afterwards, the doctor came back to tell me that I’m too young and the risk is too high. They didn’t want to take responsibility if I developed cancer later in my life. An hour later, the doctor returned with my papers, advised me to come back if my symptoms worsened over the next week, and then sent me home.
To sum it all up: I sat there for about seven hours and got nothing…
Lesson learned! Next time, I will shut the fuck up about that thing in my hand.
I wouldn’t suggest not telling a doctor about a magnet, but yeah, if it’s just an RFID-type implant… Let’s just say I only plan to tell them about my xG3 and have it removed if needed.
Yeah it did not go well hahah they were more concerned with how I got a patient’s name / medical information.
It’s not applicable to flex really because flex has no ferrite core so it’s even less likely to be an issue. Adding the t5577 is also basically irrelevant, it’s the ferrite core of that addition, but the total amount of material added is very small compared to what’s already there.
Hahaha I didn’t think about that…
should i call them and let them know that it’s okay? a power of attorney or something similar should be quite easy to do.
otherwise you could just talk to the radiologist without disclosing my sensitive data.
if you don’t want to have any more headaches about it, you can leave it. i’ve already found a new hospital that i definitely won’t tell about the implant.
Thanks for the effort though, that’s customer support as fine as it gets!
Yeah if you’ve found another hospital then I wish you the best of luck. I’m not keen on telling customers to lie to medical professionals but having to choose between getting a medical diagnostic procedure with minimal risk vs not being able to … ugh.
might just as well send them a fax