IMPLANTED XEM RFID CHIP!

[Jermaine308]

Self-Implanted the XEM RFID Chip and tried using the Chinese blue cloner to clone my house card key with no success, I have ordered a chameleon ultra from Amazon and currently waiting for it to arrive to clone my house key. Anyways anyone have success with cloning with these Chinese cloners?

[Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha]

Congrats!

@Jermaine308

tried using the Chinese blue cloner to clone my house card key with no success

Have you seen this?

The "hot wire" blue cloner mod

In the interest of minimizing the risk of tearing when programming a T5577 with my blue cloner, and to avoid opening the enclosure each and every time I want to use it to expose the coil, I modified it to put half of the coil on the outside and edgewise, to make it easy to “slash across” the implant orthogonally and as close as possible. Check it out: My blue cloner sort of looks like a hot wire cutter now, hence the title of this thread. I took a few pictures of the construction if anybody…

Also, be careful playing with those cloners, especially this soon after implanting, the xEM is vulnerable to bricking. You don’t want to try writing to it unless you’re sure of the connection

[Jermaine308]

Does opening it up and exposing the coils better for writing the T5577 chip? I can read the XEM implant but I can’t seem to write on it with the blue cloner

[Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha]

It helps get the coil a little closer, and helps align the coil properly with the chip, every little bit helps

[Jermaine308]

Alright thanks so much I will try

[Hamspiced]

Also. it is very important to wait abut 2 weeks before expecting a successful read/write.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Jermaine308

anyone have success with cloning with these Chinese cloners?

FYI, You will now have had a password written to you xEM, nothing really to worry about, It can be removed.

Handy Dandy Tips and Tricks Proxmark3

PROXMARK Remove Blue Cloner Password There are a couple of approaches to this, but for simplicity sake, I will post the one I THINK is the easiest Wipe the implant / fob / card back to T5577 using the password, something like this:- lf t5 wipe --p 51243648 Then write the new mode to it as per Proxmark instructions ( Found elsewhere ) Thanks @TomHarkness for the Blue Cloner Password

But you don’t need to, if you are not planning on using the xEM with something else that the Blue Cloner can’t write to it.

Have you tried writing to a card and testing that?
It really is most likely inflammation!

@Hamspiced

it is very important to wait abut 2 weeks before expecting a successful read/write.

[Jermaine308]

I can seem to read the implant with the Chinese cloner but i just can’t write my house card onto it

[hadoukenboy628]

Did you get your chameleon ultra yet? Personally mine doesn’t seem to detect a lf tag either from a rewritable card or emulated from flipper. Yet I’ve seen videos demonstrating that it works so

So are you saying that the chinese cloner is not reading your house key in order to be able to create a copy? Or it is copying but not writing to the chip?

[Jermaine308]

Currently waiting for the chameleon ultra to arrive, yeah I can read the implant with the cloner but I just can’t write onto it

[hadoukenboy628]

Sorry to clarify are you getting a confirmed read with the cloner on the house fob?
Also are the house fob and your implant in the same mode? There are different types of low frequency modes, em4100, t5577, hid, awid etc

[Jermaine308]

I don’t think they are in the same mode, my house fob is in HID mode, I’m not sure what’s the default mode on the XEM

[hadoukenboy628]

The xem is is in t5577 mode but in theory it should switch to hid mode when you copy to it. You weren’t specific in your reply but are you getting a confirmed read when you scan the hid fob with the cloner?
To be fair, the blue cloners dont have a great reputation and it is possible you have a faulty cloner. Im not saying it’s likely, just a possibility. The white cloners are mant to be much better.

I just checked with a t5577 card. Chameleon ultra can only read em4100 cards at the moment.

I dont have that much experience with low frequency so im not best placed to troubleshoot this much further. Hopefully one of our more knowledgeable community members will be able to help you progress this.

This is also a useful post and theres some talk about modifying the antenna to outside the case to prevent tearing.

Quirks of the T5577 & cloning tags to the xEM

Our xEM is based on the T5577 chip… a very versatile 125kHz RFID chip that can be programmed to emulate many different types of common, unsecured 125kHz chip types, including EM, HID 1326 (ProxCard II), Indala, AWIA, etc. and even has password protection functions to block reconfiguration by accident or malicious attack. At one point we sold a cloning device that could read both EM and HID 1326 tags and clone those into the xEM. The problem was, some people started to report that after trying t…

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Jermaine308

clone my house card key

Ideally you should be able to just enrol

To help diagnose this further, can you provide a link to your house lock? this is so we can see what mode(s) it is compatiable with.
The xEM has a T5577 chip in it, you will recieve it from Dangerous Things preconfigured in a very common EM41XX mode, IF your lock uses EM41XX cards / fobs, then you should jusy be able to enrol the xEM.
HOWEVER
Door locks or any battery powered locks can often times be difficult to work with xSeries implants.

Is your lock in the compatibility matrix?

Chip compatibility matrix - Google Sheets

As the title suggests, We have a Google Sheets Spreadsheet compiled by, and for the DT (and Vivokey) Forum members. It is a comprehensive, yet not an exhaustive list of products and the DT / Vivokey products they are compatible with. [Screenshot_20200708-204900_Sheets] [image] It is a living document, as we continue to add to and update as we go, Therefore, if you see an error, omission, please post a reply in this thread below. The more information you provide the easier it will make it f…

Also can you provide a link to the Blue Cloner that you bought?
There are 2 main sorts you’ll find:
The most common just does EM4xxx and the HID
There is another less common that also does AWID

How do you know that your xEM is not being written to? Are you getting an error from the cloner or from your house lock?
How many beeps do you get? This will help us work out the chipset also, i.e. * 2 beeps for EM4xxx and 3 beeps for others

My reccomendation:

• Order a T5577 card
• Wait 2 weeks before doing anymore with your xEM, to prevent data tearing during the write phase
• When your T5577 card arrives
• Copy your house card
• Write to the T5577 card
• Test the T5577 card (now in the same mode as you house card)
• If it works, and after 2 weeks of healing, repeat the T5577 card process with your xEM.

[amal]

@Jermaine308

yeah I can read the implant with the cloner but I just can’t write onto it

Writing to memory cells in the chip requires more power than reading them. If the quality of the coupling is bad, which is normal for these blue cloners, then you probably have just enough power to read the chip memory but not write anything to it.

Quirks of the T5577 & cloning tags to the xEM

Our xEM is based on the T5577 chip… a very versatile 125kHz RFID chip that can be programmed to emulate many different types of common, unsecured 125kHz chip types, including EM, HID 1326 (ProxCard II), Indala, AWIA, etc. and even has password protection functions to block reconfiguration by accident or malicious attack. At one point we sold a cloning device that could read both EM and HID 1326 tags and clone those into the xEM. The problem was, some people started to report that after trying t…

[Jermaine308]

Thanks you so much

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Jermaine308

I can read the implant with the cloner but I just can’t write onto it

@amal

If the quality of the coupling is bad, which is normal for these blue cloners

This why @Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha reccomended the “hot wire” mod.

The "hot wire" blue cloner mod

In the interest of minimizing the risk of tearing when programming a T5577 with my blue cloner, and to avoid opening the enclosure each and every time I want to use it to expose the coil, I modified it to put half of the coil on the outside and edgewise, to make it easy to “slash across” the implant orthogonally and as close as possible. Check it out: My blue cloner sort of looks like a hot wire cutter now, hence the title of this thread. I took a few pictures of the construction if anybody…

It just gets you “that much” closer to get a good read and write

Either way should work for you

Roscos way

Or my way

either way is pretty easy mod, I managed it, and I’m a fucken idiot…

If you do this or not, you want to be perpendicular with your implant and antenna, forming a +