Is there any possible way to use the NXTPAY infinity implant while living in the USA?

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As the title says, I live in the USA, and I’d really like to use this chip. ( NxtPay² - The future of payment ) It is the first implant I’ve seen that doesn’t expire, and that’s pretty intriguing to me. I would love to implant this, but I do live in the USA and don’t know if I can even possibly use it. I believe I read somewhere it uses Fidesmo, but I’ve got no idea whether that is true or not. If you’ve got any idea, help would be appreciated.

edit: Obvious, but forgot to clarify it’s a payment implant.

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NXTPAY is not expiration free, it is based on a VIMPAY conversion and only works with German accounts as far as I’m aware.

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This is a direct quote from the shop page.

“:credit_card: Pay. Upgrade. Be free.

Welcome to the next evolutionary step in payments: With NxtPay-Infinity, you carry your wallet directly under your skin – secure, contactless, and permanently valid. Unlike other payment implants, your NxtPay-Infinity is usable without time limitation. No expiration date. No replacement needed.”

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I see. That’s a different product :slight_smile: The nxtpay is a vimpay conversion. The nxtpay “infinity” is a payclet conversion that does allow tokenization of payment cards through a service called Fidesmo Pay.

Only works with certain bank cards though. Check details above.

Technically speaking there are specific limitations based on EMV rules, but you should get at least 10ish years out of it minimum.. maybe more. After a certain point EMV rules state payment cards cannot be tokenzied to chips that age out.. but it’s a long time typically.

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this is so cool how come we can’t get something like the nxpay infinity its sooo expensive lol compared to the apex flex narrow like double damn here’s some info on it also

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NxtPay-Infinity: The world’s first NFC payment implant with no expiration date!

:credit_card: Pay. Upgrade. Be free.

Welcome to the next evolutionary step in payments: With NxtPay-Infinity, you carry your wallet directly under your skin – secure, contactless, and permanently valid. Unlike other payment implants, your NxtPay-Infinity is usable without time limitation. No expiration date. No replacement needed.

**

What is NxtPay-Infinity?**

NxtPay-Infinity is an implantable NFC payment chip. The chip is embedded in a flexible, biocompatible polymer and implanted under the skin – for maximum discretion and freedom of movement.

**

:rocket: Features at a glance**

  • :white_check_mark: No expiration date: permanently activatable – no time limit

  • :white_check_mark: Contactless payment: anywhere credit cards are accepted

  • :white_check_mark: Biocompatible & safe: medical-grade biopolymer for long-term compatibility

  • :white_check_mark: Tailored: ultra-thin, lightweight and discreet (only 20x16x1.5 mm)

  • :white_check_mark: App-controlled: set limits, manage funds, geo-blocking & security features

  • :white_check_mark: Access control: Works as a door key in combination with our locking cylinder

**

:high_voltage: No battery. Always ready.**

NxtPay-Infinity works like a contactless bank card – just under your skin. It draws energy directly from the payment terminal and requires no battery. No charging. No power. No failure. Always ready to use.

**

:globe_with_meridians: Usable worldwide. Secure worldwide.**

Security comes first: NxtPay-Infinity uses the latest tokenization technology to protect your card data. Certified for contactless payments worldwide.

  • :white_check_mark: No more physical cards needed

  • :white_check_mark: Advanced encryption protects your payment data

  • :white_check_mark: Works with all NFC-enabled terminals

**

:warning: Important**

:backhand_index_pointing_right: To use NxtPay-Infinity, you need either:
– a residence in the European Economic Area (EU, UK, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein)
or

  • your Master or Visa card must be from one of the listed banks. You can find them in this LIST. (If your bank is on the list, you can use NxtPay-Infinity even if you live in Switzerland, for example).
    or
  • you have a Klarna Card (Visa) or Revolut Visa Card

:delivery_truck: Delivery & Ordering

NxtPay-Infinity is delivered sterile, intact, and ready to use.
:red_exclamation_mark: For hygienic reasons, returns are not possible after opening, activation, or implantation.

NOTE

  • Insertion is pain-free with EMLA cream (available over the counter) or Lidocaine.

  • We are not selling a product, but a service. Please read our Terms & Conditions, especially those related to implants, before activation!

  • Our payment implants (NxtPay & NxtPay-Infinity) are excluded from return for safety, health, and system integrity reasons.

Pay without a wallet. Live without limits.

:red_question_mark: FAQs

Form factor: flexible
Frequency: 13,56 MHz
Functions: Access control/ open doors, Payment
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Basically, it comes down to location. If you’re in the EU, there’s options. America is screwed by monopolistic control. Card issuers (MasterCard, Amex, Visa, etc) don’t wanna.

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Generally, you need an EU based bank account, running in Euros, to use Fidesmo Pay. Generally that means you also need a permanent EU address + documentation saying that you’re legally in that country. I’m a US/German dual citizen, but since I live in the U.S. and have my address registered on all my official documentation as being in the U.S., I can’t get a German bank account (this would also give me a big headache because double taxing laws… I don’t want to deal with two different tax systems).

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ehhh.. I mean.. it’s the same networks everywhere.. even the EU.. literally the global EMV consortium is an acronym for “EuroPay Mastercard Visa”. The “issuers” are actually the banks that “issue” the cards to you.. the “network” is the payment network the card data is sent over from terminal to processor to bank when you use the card. The location problem is simply this; there are no USA issuers (banks) that support Fidesmo Pay (yet).

Also, @storm, don’t get confused.. this is still a conversion of a legit payment device that we, Dangerous Things, manufacture into an implant. It’s not legitimately allowed by any network or issuer. Digiwell / UH just markets it as it if is. Also, there are technically “expiration dates” that have nothing to do with the tokenized account, including EMV chip end-of-life rules etc. but that’s not a sexy as saying “This is a legit payment implant with no expiration date.” .. basically all false if you dig into it deep enough.. but whatever.

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Thank you for the correction - I was under the impression it was the networks who didn’t want to but were bending in the EU to regulation pressure. I must’ve misunderstood :slight_smile:

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I wish they’d bend.. there are no legitimate payment-capable implants. Everything is a hack or workaround.

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Makes sence essentially its a window of mabyes and waiting for the apex to get aproved? Or for it never too? Type shi (and Conversion ofc)

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I mean, on the off chance that pigs fly at Visa and they have a change of heart… But the Apex is unlikely to get approved…

On an unrelated note, are there any cyborgs who are into finance here? Mind applying for the CEO role at a few credit card companies?

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Hah technically those companies (credit card companies) are issuers, not the networks that are actually blocking adoption.

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Damn this is what ive been saying we need an infultrating imposter ok sum amung sus shi to go and start as an assoaaites at the emv then work up become the ceo in 2040 and amal will wisper all the plans along the chain of command to make implants emv and payment compatible in the usa. @amal DUH!!

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Feeding right into the fears of the biblical literalists and the unmedicated schizoaffective with posts like that.

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Jk jk :winking_face_with_tongue: