My honest suggestion is to not do this. You will have no way to seriously dilute this solution without lab equipment and access to non-pyrolytic, sterile saline. You can’t buy this at any store I know of. Simply using sterile saline is not enough, because it could contain pyrogens and other terrible nasties. Also how are you going to mix it without introducing contamination? Simply exposing it to air is going to do that, and without any kind of preservative it’s going to likely act as a nice growth medium.
I have never in my life seen any kind of ampule that suggests dilution… and if one does exist, it’s probably a multidose vial not an ampule… and multidose has its own set of problems. The only way this could even remotely be safe is if you had a vial of non-pyrolytic saline aka medical injectable saline… and you would use an IV tube with an injector port to pull the saline into the syringe and then use that same needle and syringe to pull the lidocaine in at the required dosages… But even doing this is very strange as you typically don’t want to do that with a needle into multiple injector ports either in an IV or a multi dose file.
What I called ampoules are plastic, not glass. Also I would prefer not to dilute with anything if that is an option, that’s why I came here to ask if it was necessary. I’m using Google translate to read the box, so I could be wrong about the dilution-step all together.
Such a wealth of precaution - excellent advice that should be heeded of course. But somehow I can’t help but juxtapose this picture of us responsible, careful biohackers against junkies shooting up bic lighter-cooked stuff drawn from a dirty spoon into their veins. Hell, I even met a guy who used to shoot up corn whisky once. Somehow you wonder how the latter people manage to stay alive for so long.
Interestingly it doesn’t say “must be diluted” in their long spiel, BUT when you get to the dosage instructions it states specific concentrations which are much lower. So, my guess is that the Google translation is entirely accurate. This is probably sold for pharmacy use where they might need varying concentrations, and will have pyrogen free sterile saline for dilution.
Nope… lidocaine sold for this purpose is a powder. This is in leur lock ampule form designed to be injected… and not diluted either… as far as I can tell it’s a 2ml ampule with 200mg total lidocaine, or a 10% mixture. Russians
Yeah see I though it would have been a powder (should have gone with my gut). 10% like nice so most people gonna need like 0.25ml using 1ml @ 2% as a benchmark
Think I sussed it l, seems like lidocain can be used as a bolus to treat arithmya in which case it is placed into an iv and dosed that way. That seems a more sensible use for this strength of lido.
Or then again maybe Russians just need more numbing.
Also
Intravenous regional anesthesia on the arm: 100–200 mg
Intravenous regional anesthesia on the leg: 200 mg
Nerve block: 20-200 mg
Sacral anesthesia in obstetrics: 200–300 mg
Lumbar analgesia: 250-400 mg.
Hey don’t knock yourself you went and asked I just googled. I rememberd it being mentioned vaugly but also wouldn’t say that I’m right just seems the most likely with the info we got.
That is really my best educated guess. I didn’t piece it together until I read that shady pharm site.
I think the most we ever got was like a 1.4 liters. It was crazy to see that come out. Patient is awake, so they usually express immediate relief. It’s pretty cool to see.
hah well, going shoeless in certain controlled scenarios seems far less risky than injecting stuff…
so like… literally putting whisky into a syringe and injecting it? wtf… i guess i can see how that can work but honestly wtf is wrong with people… is he just trying to save money by minimizing the required amount to get drunk? Though, probably the most fucked up thing I’ve ever heard of is a woman who was so poor she couldn’t afford meth so she would hang around meth houses and make the meth heads pee into jars and she would drink it because a large amount of meth does not get metabolized it just passes in urine… so she was mething out on stranger’s pee… fucking hell the human brain is gross… innovative… but gross.