Next V3 Concept

Hi everyone, I currently have the Next V2 implanted which I’m happy with.

But I’ve been thinking about what could be in store for the Next V3.

The NextV2 looks something like this:

( NFC/T5577/HF LED)

But could it be possible to add a xG3 magnet somehere in the mix to make the implant the ultimate all-around implant? The xG3 may have to be shortened to half its size, but it would look something like this:

( xG3/NFC/T5577/HF LED)

The xG3 is already incased within a bioglass tube, so the jump to pairing it with a Next V2 doesnt seem that far fetched.

My only concern would be how the HF and LF chips work being so close to a magnet.

Any thoughts? Maybe Amole can give us a hint of what he has in store :slight_smile:

This is the problem, the magnet directly affects the induction, and extended exposure to a magnet causes the ferrite core to lose efficiency furthering the problem

X-series already struggle with coupling, adding a magnet to the mix is bad news bears

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Magnet will detune the antenna :antenna_bars:

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However, some glow powder might be cool…

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Some glow powder would be even cooler if the LED was UV

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It’s been mentioned/tried a few times

I don’t recall any major breakthroughs though… :classic_annoy:

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It’ll saturate the ferrite, essentially turning the antenna coils into air core inductors and increasing the resonant frequency as a result.

It might be doable, but it’ll probably require a bigger air (or resin) core antenna coil which would increase the size.

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If I were to design a new implant, I’d probably just want a dual frequency LED. Say blue for high, and green for low. Basically just a X-series RFID diagnostic card. LED’s are cool, but it’d serve an actual purpose then (identifying frequency types).

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Dual frequency LEDs would definitely seem like the logical next step (or NExT step?), but the T5 chip doesn’t do power harvesting so the LF LED stuff would probably take up a lot of space.

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My pardon, I didnt clarify. No chip, just high/low blink.

A high/low next style chip would be awesome, but I’m sure your right about realworld constraints.

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I vaguely remember DT trying something like that a few years ago. It’s probably possible but IIRC trying to get manufacturers to actually make it correctly was a huge pain in the ass.

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The xMagic in my mind is kind of “the original successor” to the NExT.

Maybe other people would be interested in these sorts of combos, granted likely not to the extent of the xMagic.

A DESFire EV2/3 4/8kb model would be a nice upgrade to the NTAG 216 from a capacity standpoint, but it is my understanding that these are hard to consistently get ahold of, so price would likely be pretty steep.

I will say, that there is one IC that would be absolutely INSANE to pair with a T5577. If you are in the DT Club, you’ll probably know what I’m talking about.

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