I recently purchased one of the X-series chips because I was under the impression that there was a professional partner in Los Angeles under the name “Monkeys to Go” who could help me with the installation process, but after buying the chip I found out that it seems they have permanently closed as of a few weeks ago. Does anyone here know anyone else in the area who could help me out? Thanks.
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Ryan Barden is the one listed on the partner map and I have him do my installs. Can’t say enough good things about him. Shoot me a dm and I’ll see if he’s good with me passing his info along.
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That would be incredibly helpful, thank you! I can’t really figure out how to DM, sorry. Could you message me?
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Check your inbox. His contact info is there. 
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Ah that’s a bummer about Monkeys to Go closing. I had my Apex flex done there
Hey, I realize this thread is over a year old, but is Ryan Barden still installing Apex Flex or Flex UG4 around LA? Bonus if anyone can handle the FlexEM too. Thanks!
If you have no luck, you can try approaching some,
Here’s a guide
https://forum.dangerousthings.com/t/how-to-approach-a-professional
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Thanks for the info! I checked the professional partner listed for LA, but the number provided seems to be out of service. My main concern with new person is ensuring they have experience specifically with these techniques to avoid complications—especially given how delicate procedures involving the hands can be. Given the large number of plastic surgeons in LA, I’m surprised none have specialized in body implants yet, but even so, one who has experence with these devices is best.
The cost is insane to work with cosmetic surgeons… $1000 minimum what what I was hearing from LA docs.
Hand surgery is definitely tricky but the entire premise here is that we are not going into the hand, we are staying strictly subdermal… only skin deep as it were. A regular body piercer should be able to handle this, but if you are concerned then we offer free consultations to all professionals over Google Meet or Zoom or whatever they prefer.
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I’m truly honored by your personal outreach and deeply respect your pioneering contributions to the biohacking community. Your work as the founder and CEO of Dangerous Things has been instrumental in advancing human augmentation technologies, and your innovations have paved the way for new enthusiasts like myself to engage with this transformative field.
I’ve closely watched your installation technique and greatly admire its surgical precision. Knowing that you have personally performed over 1,000 installations further reassures me of your expertise and dedication.
I’m highly interested in pursuing the implants and am fully committed to following your expert recommendations. I’m willing to travel to any professional you suggest—preferably on the West Coast, but I’m open to other locations—to ensure the best possible outcome. I fully believe in this technology and am eager to integrate it into my life for the long term. I understand that all procedures carry inherent risks and am prepared to follow any guidelines you provide to mitigate them.
Thank you once again for your guidance.
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Admittedly the west coast is pretty sparce with few professionals. Some are simple not wanting to be on the map for fear of regulatory repercussions. If you’re in the Seattle area or find yourself here, there is a good professional in downtown Seattle I go to for my own work.
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Understandably, people generally fear the unknown, and such societal reactions are to be expected.
Thanks, Amal—I’ll absolutely make a trip out of this. Knowing that someone you trust with your own work speaks highly of your recommendation means a great deal to me. Really looking forward to this!
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Do you know anybody in the medical field?
Doctor, nurse, EMT, Medic, Veterinarian?
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There’s also Nathan. He could probably sort a flex.
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For sure! I think when it comes to the forearm, most people in the medical field aren’t as apprehensive—there’s a lot of dermal real estate to work with. But when it comes to anything near the hands or eyes, everyone tends to refer to a specialist.
Subdermal implants carry less risk overall, but even in the “what not to do” videos, you can see the consequences of poor technique. Those who fail to tent the skin properly and go too deep risk vascular, nerve, and tendon injury. I literally saw someone’s finger twitch in one of the failed attempts, which could indicate nerve stimulation or even damage.
Also, the hands are always exposed. A well-placed implant conforms to the anatomy and is cosmetically barely noticeable. But if someone doesn’t know what they’re doing, there aren’t many good options besides removal and re-insertion—which is far from ideal.