Reasons for second Apex?

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Realistically, what are some reasons for a second Apex Flex (or other for Club members wink).

I know having a backup is essential, but I’m currently only really using my Apex Flex with KeePassXC (and android alternatives) with the same HMAC code as I think 5 other YubiKey’s scattered about. So if it did die on me suddenly, I’m not locked out of my PW’s.
I have a couple other apps installed on it to mess around, but don’t have a Tesla so no need for that key.

My other reasoning for possibly getting a second one, if it’s implanted on inside right forearm, I can mount a reader under my wrist-rest table off to the side a bit so could move mouse over-scan-click without trouble.

I only have a couple OTP codes stored on it (I use KeePassXC’s TOTP code stuff for years) so I guess if I ever moved them out of the PW database and onto the implant itself I may run out of space and need a second?

Keep hearing @Amal is dual-wielding Apex’s, are you just storing a digital crapton of codes on them?

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Storing about 25 otp codes but they are both storing the same keys for backup. When I add a new one I add to both before I confirm the code in the associated web service

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So mainly one is a backup, okay thanks.

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Yeah basically. I use them interchangeably so I don’t really have a primary / backup arrangement with them.

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I got my Apex Flex with the expectation that I’d get a second one (or a Flex Secure) much like a certain entrepreneur in this thread, mainly for redundancy. I also am severely lacking in Teslas, so my primary apps are OTP and FIDO2. Regarding my security setup, I use Bitwarden with 2FA setup on every site possible, with OTP and Passkeys configured according to availability per site.

I have a few OTP keys on my Alex Flex, mostly mission-critical ones or ones that Bitwarden won’t autofill, such as for Bitwarden itself. For OTP keys that I need to type in manually, my implant is my fastest and handiest (heh) method of getting them.

For FIDO2, I again have mostly mission-critical keys, so I could (for instance) quickly access my Google account in the event that I don’t have access to my phone. But the industry seems to be leaning more towards Passkeys, such as those that’d go in the iCloud Keychain or in bitwarden, rather than a dedicated, NFC-only device like the Apex Flex. For this reason, I’ve had some errors trying to configure FIDO2 with some sites.

Back to the topic, I haven’t needed to rely on my Apex Flex to rescue me from any situation, since I’ve always had my phone or computers handy. The convenience of the implant is fantastic, but at the moment my usage is light enough that I don’t feel much pressure to get a second one.

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LOL, this is like deja vu moment, coz I recently purchased 2 more apex flex implants.
Straight to the point. Do you need a second one? It’s really up to your use cases.
I can give you my reasons. So the biggest one is the PGP.
I use eliptic curve algos right now but they are not compatible with some legacy systems at work. Which means I have to drag my yubikey with me.
After the new fido2 applet got released, I am really low on memory on my main apex, so having 2 more wont hurt.

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I will probably get a FlexSecure to complement my Apex at some point. I have FIDO2, HMAC, and OPT installed and don’t have room for many other applets, especially once I start adding more FIDO and OTP credentials.

The FlexSecure has more space than the Apex, and with payments still being a long way off if ever, it seems like a good 2nd device.

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I have an apex + a flex one, running a few duplicate applets.

Backup is one reason I keep them both; storage is the other one.
Actually thinking to get a FlexSecure to get some more space, but still waiting, just in case one of those round P71 with LEDs becomes available again :smiley:

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