I saw a few people talking about satochip and figured someone has to have experience with it, or could lead me in the right direction. has annyone gotten the application to work properly with their apex?
it reads the chip fine initially and alerts that it needs to be setup, then fails to setup. when looking at the reason why, it seems it’s lacking issuer authentication.
if anyone has had any luck around it, or can offer another solution for storing seed phrases, I would be extremely grateful! I couldn’t seem to get the status.im keycard applet installed on my apex as it keeps giving me a “out of storage” error. I’ll probably try installing it using an android phone this week and hope for success, but would love to get this solved as well
I noticed that if you install the “SeedKeeper” applet it works with the mobile app. I didn’t find a mobile app that worked with the SatoChip applet (but crytpo is not my forte). Looking back at their releases, the previous one says it includes SeedKeeper support but installing that applet on my test card and trying gave the same error so I am at a loss.
Out of curiosity, are you trying to install it while SatoChip is installed?
Satodime is the other app. Their naming conventions are confusing. SatoChip is the company (project?) as well as the name of one of the applets. I suspect that SatoChip is supposed to be SeedKeeper + Satodime.
That’s just seedkeeper–the actual wallet appears to be part of Satodime, if i understand. SeedKeeper works fine. Satodime doesn’t install–it throws an error. SatoChip installs but doesn’t work with either mobile app so shrugs
so here’s an update for others wanting to try it. I spent literal hours scanning in all positions (on the original seedkeeper application) and somehow… SOMEHOW, it setup properly twice.
don’t get excited yet, because getting it to read the stored data again was a pain and took me scanning it back and forth like a blind cashier continuously for an hour.
so it does work (sometimes), but it seems you really have to get lucky though and the hassle of it was not worth the space it was eating up. BUT IT DOES WORK.
it’s really strange because when it finally did setup, it alerted me that it wasn’t a satochip issued card and to be careful hahah. anyways, thanks everyone for the responses, I have a feeling that this requires the perfect conditions and then perfect angle and timing when scanning and then some added luck from the universe. I’m happy to keep playing with it if anyone else wants this on their flex
SeedKeeper (JCOP applet) worked for me every time (with the SeedKeeper mobile app)–SatoChip never worked for me with either SeedKeeper or Satodime. Which combinations are you referring to?
More digging… SatoChip (the JCOP applet) is supposed to be the cold wallet. According to the repo, the only things that it is compatible with are PC apps (that i see) and only one of them isn’t a specially made fork:
Supported software clients
Bitcoin: the Bitcoin Electrum-Satochip is a version of Electrum that was slightly modified to integrate the Satochip hardware wallet.
Bitcoin Cash: the Electron Cash-Satochip is a version of Electron Cash that was slightly modified to integrate the Satochip hardware wallet. Note: Satochip is natively supported by Electron Cash, we strongly encourage you to download the client from the official website.
eCash (XEC): Satochip is natively supported by Electrum ABC, we strongly encourage you to download the client from the official website.
Metamask: you can use your Satochip hardware wallet with a forked version of Metamask called Satomask. To allow the communication between the card and your web browser, you will need the Satochip Bridge.
MyEtherWallet: you can use your Satochip hardware wallet with a forked version of MyEtherWallet called MEW Satochip. To allow the communication between the card and your web browser, you will need the Satochip Bridge.
so I tried the satochip seedkeeper + seedkeeper app, that was the only combination that I could get working twice in my several hundred attempts. I tried the satochip applet with and without the seedkeeper applet and that made no difference. tried the newest version of the app as well that was posted, satodime, but again, same issues. hopefully they future holds something more stable as I was really fond of storing my seed phrase on my flex.
I might go ahead and convert my seed phrase into another format or it’s binary equivalent to use another applet as unindented storage, such as a PGP key or OTP key, etc. if anyone has any ideas for that, I would love to hear them.
I’m not clear and what is what here (there is a version of the SatoChip app that is supposed to include SeedKeeper [SatoChip + SeedKeeper] which I downloaded from the repo–not Fidesmo–and installed on my test card–it didn’t play nice with SeedKeeper). You have an Apex, yeah? And you’re installing from Fidesmo? if so, there are two options: SatoChip.io SeedKeeper and SatoChip.io. To do what you want, install SatoChip.io SeedKeeper. Next, use the SeedKeeper mobile app. That works for me.
By works for me I mean:
I open the SeedKeeper app on my phone
hit the “click to scan” button
scan
it prompts for a pin, i enter one
it tells me i need to setup a pin and to enter one
then confirm
then click and scan again
prompts for pin
And then I’m in and can add secretts.
SatoChip apparently only works with certain desktop apps and Satodime is not compatible with the Apex (or flexSecure) at all.
yup, i did exactly as you described earlier. there’s an issue when scanning the second time to confirm the pin.
after trying it 100 times, it worked once or twice, then after adding the secret and trying to read it, i had come across the same error. i had to again scan 100+ times and eventually got lucky once and could read the secret.
the hassle of that just was not worth it for me. the amount of time i had to put into scanning over and over and over just to eventually read the secret just wasn’t worth the space it takes up. I figured I would just convert my seed into another format and store it on another applet, such as base64 encoding the seed phrase and saving it as a PGP private key. it’s not its intended purpose and the key won’t be usable I imagine, but I would be able to recover it if ever needed.
Wait. So the Satochip.io applet that is available on the Fidesmo app works as Seedkeeper + cold wallet at the same time, but the cold wallet function would only work in a PC? Did I get it right?
