Setting up a xSIID NFC + LED Implant for access panel at work

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Hello,

Sorry, but i am a complete new beginner and cant really wrap my head around on how to set this up. I´ve tried the FAQ and i am not able to grasp it completely.

I have a xSIID NFC + LED Implant from Dsruptive Subdermals (NTAG I2C Plus 2k) in my left hand which is empty and a MIFARE Classic EV1 (MF1S50) access tag at work which i use to scan the access panel at work (which is a ARX Access panel delivered from Assa Abloy). My access tag is added

I was under the impression that i could copy my access tag with an app such as NFC Tools, TagInfo or TagWriter, but i am unable to add it and i am not really sure which info category? to add. The other subdermal implant users have an additional record which is a DESFire CSN, but i cant understand where to get the tagID from?

Is there a step by step guide of how to create a custom record which i can add to the database so that i can use my chip with the access panel?

Thanks a lot for all the help!

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Sorry, no. Those can handle the data. Not only that but the xSIID cannot change its UID. If your credential is a MIFARE Classic, you want an xM1, xMagic, flexM1 v2, flexUG4, or dUG4T

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Where did you purchase it from? The “xSIID” is specifically a Dangerous Things product, manufactured by Dangerous Things, using an OEM module inside from Dsruptive.

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I dont want you to get overwhelmed, so if you still have questions after, just ask.

Some quick research:

Some apparently are dual frequency so it might also be compatiable with LF implants
(125kHz) in EM or HID Prox

This will depend on if it is the correct model and that functionality is switched on.

Also, the range on an xSeries can sometimes be tricky.

There is also a possibility that it is NTAG compatiable, but only if it is reading just the UID

If so, your xSIID might work, but rather than clone, you would need to enroll.

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Aaa okay i understand! So i will have to enroll my implant to the system as noted below. Do you know if there are any credentials that would be “copy-able” to the xSIID?

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I might be wrong in the specification of it, but i got it implanted at a “dsruptive subdermals” event. I think they’ve migrated to implants for animals since i cant really find any other information about them other than socials for now.

The chip ID i can find (while not understanding this a 100% would be NTAG I2C Plus 2k as far as i can understand.

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Thanks! Yeah we have some readers with an attached enhancer of some sort to pick up the signal from the xSIID.

I do know there are several others who are able to use the implant but unfortunately they dont know how to set it up. NTAG compatible sounds right.

I dont really understand what i am supposed to roll as i cant see what is the unique ID i should add to the system. From what i can see there is a DESFire CSN with 9 numbers for the others ID but when i scan my chip i cant seem to find anything to resemble this in the scan output so my initial idea would be to write a ID to my chip and add this but i cant really seem to get that to work either.

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Sorry, what i was saying is thst you cannot save mifare classic credentials on an NTAG. Thet don’t work the same way. As pilgrims mentioned, if your system will enroll the transponder as it is, it willl work. But that sort of thing is very uncommon in commercial systems.

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(None if this is certain and is all best guess)

IF you can enroll, one way is to do it manually, i.e. Use TagInfo for example, and it will display the UID which you can then add into the system under your profile
OR, you will still need access to the system, scan your xSIID at a reader ant a known time and location, it will show on the system as something like “unauthorised” , then add it to the system, again under your name.

Both of the above SHOULD work unless there are further security measures implemented, like here

Again, if you have access to the Assa Abloy Software, check it is set to “UID/CSN” mode.

I believe the terms are used interchangeably or it looks for either, so IF you can enroll your UID you SHOULDN’T need the CSN.

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Thank you very much, you were correct with this:

So i started this from the wrong end where i wanted to copy my regular chip and transfer the code over to my implant, rather than using the implant as a stand alone chip and register it under my user.

I don’t know if it matters but the other similar entries had it set as a DESFire CSN with 9 numbers so i added it as that myself. Now it works perfectly IF the reader is strong enough, which unfortunately isn’t the case for all readers but it works on some.

Thanks again everyone!!

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Consider putting rsp stickers on.. covertly if necessary. A lot of commercial readers also have plastic covers over top of the base unit that you can pop off and put the repeater sticker on the underside / inside, then pop the case back on and nobody knows the difference.. but you will have a special spot you can put your implant over and it will work better.

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