Tesla reader locations

[Ben_bionic]

So I’ve had my Apex in for a bit now and registered it with my Tesla model Y with no issues! The inside reader is very easy to find. BUT I feel like a crazy person trying to find the right location on the outside. Does anyone have a model Y have a location I should put a sticker on? I feel like my neighbors are thinking I’m trying to break into my own car as I wipe my hand and try the handles for 15minutes before giving up and going inside just to try again the next day.

I have installed the applet, I did register it to the car, and when I scan inside the car it does switch to the Apex key. I just can’t get the right spot on the piller, or maybe antenna orientation? I assume it would be the exact same as the Tesla key implant.

[enginerd]

I don’t own a Tesla but I can suggest trying to locate the antenna with a keychain field detector.

[Ben_bionic]

This is an obvious solution, just ordered all the field testers. Not sure why I didn’t think of it!

[enginerd]

Wait, the Apex pre-orders didn’t include one? But that’s probably not a major hassle as I assume that most of people who ordered one have several keychains already.

[Satur9]

It’s here, right?

You may need to hold the implant a cm off the surface to get a good read. Too close and there’s parasitics interrupting a good read. Depending on your install location, I would find another part of your hand to rest on the car that let’s you prop the implant 5-10mm off the surface, and then slowly slide down from above the reader point to past it. Very slowly though because it’s probably pinging on an interval.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@enginerd

Apex pre-orders didn’t include one?

I’m pretty sure, only xSeries implants come with the xFDs

Although in this situation an HF xFD could be beneficial

@Ben_bionic

just ordered all the field testers

You should have just orderd an xSeries…Like a NExT Implant, you would have got the xFDs for FREEEEEEEEE

The Apex Flex should come with a DT DC though

If this was me, to help build the picture, I would be using the DT DC to determine the duty cycle and get an idea of the power output.

[Ben_bionic]

I already have so many implants I didn’t need more. And the beta apex didn’t include anything but the implant and needle, might be different when in production.

[ethan_rose]

Just thought I’d chime in and add some (possibly) useful info.

I noticed when testing that that Tesla door readers will light up a FD card brightly for a second or two and then reduce power, same with iPhone. Presumably this is to save power but isn’t helpful with a chip/card/etc which takes some time to run it’s applet all while having no external means of knowing this is occurring.

I suspect this also happens when you present an implant so you might have more luck taking your hand/arm/meatbag away for a second and then going again rather than moving your implant around in the vicinity of the reader for more than a second or so.

[amal]

It would be great to try to get some objective testing done on this.

Anyone able to send me a Tesla?

[tangerineaxle]

I thought we were getting one with the Flex pre-orders? Been waiting on mine to get delivered

[ethan_rose]

No, but I would be extremely happy to help with testing if you can give me specific testing protocols or objectives.

I have several different types of field detectors, both Android and iOS devices, a proxmark etc annnnd an Apex Mega which may be installed (one day).

Sign me up!