The anti🚫-derailment🚃 & thread🧵 hijacking🔫 thread🧵 ⁉

[darthdomo]

Creating your account and immediately posting this isn’t a great start. You say both:

@kudichode

It’s disgusting and disturbing how divisive of an issue it has become.

as well as:

@kudichode

The world is becoming an increasingly scary dystopian place

Considering fairly basic public health protection measures to be dystopian isn’t helping the divisiveness you perceive.

Vaccine mandates in times of health crises aren’t new, and they haven’t caused issues in the past. School children in the US have generally been required to be vaccinated for over 160 years now (since the 1850s).

@kudichode

The red herring is that nobody wants to discuss natural immunity after being exposed and recovered

Every event I’ve seen in my area that required vaccination, also accepted a positive antibody test as valid. Also, that point might be made moot due to the variants. The vaccine teaches your body’s immune system to specifically attack the spike protein, which applies to all known variants (although Omicron has yet to be seen, and yes, it could be an issue). Natural immunity likely isn’t as generally effective, primarily providing protection for the same strain that caused the initial infection.

Also, you say “nobody”, but that’s a point that I’ve seen almost all right-wing publications peddling for nearly a year now.

@kudichode

not to steer this into a political direction

You made it political as soon as you mentioned “Really glad to be living in America rn”, while calling the rest of the world increasingly scary and dystopian. This forum is incredibly international, and a considerable number of people on this forum live in places with stronger public health protections than the US.

@kudichode

It would only make sense to make vaccine checks compulsory if we knew for 100% fact that being vaccinated halted the virus altogether, or that it prevented both re-infection and transmission… but the data doesn’t agree

One problem, which came up recently in several areas, is that unvaccinated folks who get hospitalized with COVID take up unnecessary room in the ICU, potentially stopping those with severe injuries from getting the care they need. The vaccines heavily, heavily reduce hospitalizations and deaths, lightening the load on healthcare infrastructure. While you might think that vaccination should be a private decision, everyone shares hospitals with those around them, and capacity is limited.

With the vaccine being incredibly safe, there’s no real risk in mandating it.

(@Pilgrimsmaster, not sure what you want to do here, this whole chain throws the thread off-topic, and overall I’m not sure how useful/meaningful this discussion is/will be)