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19933

On the web version you have options like " show fewer shorts", “don’t recommend channel”, “not interested”, etc. In my experience those last just long enough to get out of mind and then BAM!, right back in your face.

You know how streaming services have become cable tv like, and led us full circle back to piracy? Shorts, and the instant attention span they exploit, seems to be following the same lifecycle that pop up ads did. Currently we’re just entering the adblocker phase of it. Between that, the resurgence of piracy, and the “anything goes” A.I. race (.com bubble???) it feels very 90’s again.

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19934

My bad for not clarifying, I meant on Newpipe :melting_face:

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19935

My bad too! I didn’t mean to comment on the newpipe, I was just making a parallel observation. Basically just how assholish youtube behaves. I don’t have a clue on the app version, but I’d bet money they follow the same push push push format.

I’m sure newpipe is a different (better) beast, but that kinda supports my “the past is new again” argument. It’s the same kind of workaround logic that emerged to deal with some of the 90’s issues.

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19936

It’s pushing the shorts even harder than the the web version, and there’s no way to disable them. Not even temporarily


They really want you glued to the screen and unlike the long form videos, there’s nothing of value in those shorts.

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19937

Most of the time I’m on youtube, I’m deep diving into some obscure concept. Shorts are the opposite of deep diving, and thus the problem. I can’t get anything from it with that drivel being constantly pushed.

I find it weird-ish to hear people talk about how it’s addictive / pulls you in. It has nearly the opposite effect on me. If I accidentally open one, the quick pace of delivery feels good for just the beginning, then I realize it’s a nothing burger, and switch to being simultaneously pissed and dissapointed. End of happy train. I’m more likely to leave youtube than to cycle through shorts. I’m most likely to look for a way to kill off shorts so I can get back to what I’m there for.

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19938

I can watch 2-3 “Meme/Funny” type shorts, but then I’ve had my share for the day. I got a chuckle, I’m done. I either leave the site or move on to something like Jeff Geerling’s newest video or maybe other content I want to look for in particular.

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19939

Exactly

If I wasn’t going through a lot of stuff, dealing with worthless bureaucrats, and wasn’t kinda lonely, it’d probably be less addictive.

But shorts don’t fill that gap
 Those are an easy distraction, but don’t help in any way and waste a lot of time. Hence why I want to get those out of my life.

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19940

A lot of times ports of entry have full body x-ray scanners.. like real x-rays not the bullshit you walk through to get on the plane. They’re looking for swallowed drug packages mostly, but I’m sure it would show implants just as easily. I don’t know of anybody actually having to go through one of those machines, cuz they only put people suspected of it smuggling through them.

I have had to talk about my implants though. I was put through secondary screening once and one of the questions that came up was if I had any implants. They were asking about medical implants of course, but I didn’t want to risk being accused of lying so I said yeah I have 11 of them. Then I proceeded to explain what they were and the company, and by the end they were super interested. They actually looked up dangerous things right there at their terminal.

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19941

That’s awesome actually.

19942

Walked in to my Mother’s house and my phone starts begging to connect to her fridge.

*sigh * One more thing to neuter.

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19943

Those who routinely use chatgpt, how often do you get the choice between two versions. I’ve been pushing hard on it lately in chemistry, metallurgy, geology and assorted trivia, and seeing it alot. Just wndered if it’s connected to the contortions I’ve inflicted upon it.

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19944

I get why you’d want to get notifications from a washing machine, dryer, or dishwasher
 But a fridge?

What functionality can an internet connected fridge offer?

This just seems like expanding the attack surface of your home network for the convenience of knowing that your dinner is still frozen


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19945

I have an Samsung fridge and a problematic family. It does one thing that is helpful and does not do a thing that should be obvious but is not an option.

  • I get “door open” alerts which I can wire into Amazon and Google smarthome offerings, as well as home assistant. When a child leaves the door open (happens a lot), I can get a notice but I can also kick off home automation routines that literally say “Close the damn door you filthy animals”.

  • What it does not do but I wish did is allow me to use the same smart home tools to lock / unlock the water / ice dispensor. The goddamn thing is connected to the stupid smart screen in the door so it gets a little pop-up when I lock or unlock the dispenser, and I can control the lock through the built-in buttons or through a toggle switch on the smart screen UI.. but no cloud control over that feature. Stupid assholes.

It seems Samsung, LG, and others are way more concerned with gathering data than providing features with all this cloud nonsense. My fridge tries to use a series of internal cameras that point at your food to determine what the hell you’re putting in there and when, and when it might need to be coming up on expiration. It fails in the most laughable ways, so I put tape over all the cameras and physically destroyed the microphone for it’s equally laughable “bixby” voice assistant, which can’t even get simple volume adjustment commands correct when a kid is watching youtube shorts on the built-in screen.

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19946

I agree. The fridges are a long way from being useful. I wish they would invest more into them. I like to be able to look into my fridge when I am at the shopping centre so I know what groceries to buy, but the cameras are so shitty
.. maybe in a few years.

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19947

This. As long as this is the motivation service will be shit.

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19948

Not to derail from fridges, but:

Last night I just had to rip a DVD purchased in the last week from a major retailer. The movie is a copy of Howl’s Moving Castle by Studio Ghibli.

We have a little media center PC in our bedroom for use as things like a steam link and some occasional web browsing or movie watching that the AndroidTV its connected to just can’t do properly. We got the DVD a bit ago because I simply didn’t feel like hunting for a good torrent of it, and the SO really wanted to watch it. I used this to turn it into a random gift by buying the metal DVD/BluRay box set.

Last night I grabbed my USB–>DVD drive, slapped that on the Pi4, slapped the disk in that, VLC refuses to play it. The OS did recognize the disc.

“That’s weird”

I go and slap the disc in my main system’s (Linux) proper 5.25in drive bay. Now keep in mind, about a year and a half ago I was using this system to rip all of the DVDs I had that I considered important to back up. It has handbrake and all the silly little decoders I need to do so.

VLC/MPV doesn’t open it. Weird.

“Fuck it”

I open up handbrake and spend the next 40 minutes helping my SO open and clean their xbox waiting for the rip to complete (why we didn’t use the xbox to play the BluRay version? Because it hadn’t been turned on in two years and we wanted to make sure there wasn’t anything spilled in the vent. It was the backup option.).

Rip completes, I use a flash drive to move the file to the pi, MPV opens it immediately and plays the entire movie perfectly with a single 2 second stutter in the first 120 seconds. Crystal clear, wonderful colors, just low resolution because of the source. A great experience


But why, Studio Ghibli, why o’ why did I have to rip your movie off of the disc I purchased just to watch it? I would understand if the Pi just lacked some random piece of software, as this is the first time I’ve (tried) to play a DVD from it since installing it, but my main system that I’ve used to watch multiple movies from less than two years ago..? On tech that is well over two decades old now? Why?

19949

It’s very often that you get a worse experience by buying vs piracy. It’s ridiculous.

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19950

Literally the only benefit(s) to purchasing it in this instance:

I have two hard disc copies
I have pretty metal box
I could rip the DVD version in the highest quality H.265 was capable of (well, most of it because diminishing returns.)

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19951

I remember when MPEG2 decoder cards were a thing


And I think that you ran into one of those few instances were VLC can’t play something. WTF!?

I’ve seen cloud connected fridges without the cameras or water dispenser. Although I wasn’t expecting the door open reminder to be a thing.

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19952

What would be the benefit of a smart fridge without those things? Just the integrated android tablet?