Heya, I’ve had my titan (re)installed a bit more than a month ago, in my left ring finger, side of the fingerpad.
I’ve had a slight loss of feeling on the skin above the implant site for a couple weeks, but now it seems mostly healed.
My issue is that for now, the only things I’ve been able to feel were :
Magnets, obviously
My microwave ( weakly, only when placing my hand a centimeter away, on the right spot )
My e-scooter’s charger ( same, very weak, and only in the right precise spot )
I can’t feel any part of my computers, desktop or laptop, or any other device like a powered docking station, or anything else. I can’t feel stores detector gates either, not at all, even when inches away
Is that normal ? Do I have some deeper nerve damage ? Or do I just have to wait a lot longer to have nerves develop around the implant ?
You will be able to ‘sense’ anything ferromagnetic (iron, magnets, some steels etc) or something generating a strong enough magnetic field (electromagnets). You wont sense electricity or RF unless it also happens to be generating a significant electromagnetic field
The sensing you are feeling with a magnetic implant is the sensation of the magnet getting pulled under your skin, stimulating your skins normal proprioceptors.
Nerves do not regrow around the implant, but your skin does heel. Scar tissue will have less sensation than normal skin and the reduction in sensation will depend on site and size of the scar but some increased sensation will happen over time as the skin recovers.
The ‘Detector gates’ you are talking about are presumably those arches by store doors that alarm if a security tag is brought close to them? If thats the case then yes - you will not be able to detect those as they dont produce a strong EM field, its a very low power RF field. Otherwise everyone with a pacemaker would panic going into shops
Yeah, I mean I can feel my laptop but barely and only in a certain spot very close to it.
If I’m honest; yeah that’s it, you probably don’t have nerve damage, magnet implants just aren’t that great.
I certainly expected a lot more from my magnet if I’m honest to myself, but that’s on me.
iirc there are some stores that have detectable fields, @JennyMcLane found a library that has a crazy field
but yeah you wont feel 99% of them
The way this happens is by drawing massive amounts of current through a wire, or by drawing enough current through coils of wire like in an electromagnet as found in microwave ovens, electric motors, etc.
This depends on the type of gates. Old “bit tags” typically used in libraries to monitor for unchecked booked passing out the gate work by generating a large magnetic field which resonates a thin sliver of metal and it “rings” which can be detected magnetically by the gate. They are called bit tags because they carry no data, only state like “active” and “deactivated”. Those gates will give you a buzzing of a lifetime… but the much more typical security gates use actual RFID to get data from a transponder like a unique serial number, those are much much lower power and you will not feel anything from those systems.
Typically you can feel certain components in laptops like the cooling fan, which is an electric motor (see above), or there are also magnetic lid closure sensors that require the placement of a magnet in the lid somewhere to work, or in the case of certain Macbook products, there are also magnets used to keep the lid closed through magnetic attraction, so of course you could feel those.
In general, the most important thing to understand about a magnet implant is that it is a magnet… nothing more… just as @sgtreckless said.
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I’m deeply curious. I got my magnets installed in 2013 (yes, we’re talking the original giant Gen1’s with the problematic silicone coating), and they’re shockingly still in. It sounds like for a bunch of people, magnetic implants are just magnets, with minimal EM if any. Is that still the consensus?
I ask because even after more than a decade, I still have a pretty incredible sensitivity to EM. I’ll try to do some tests, because I’ve definitely lost some level of sensitivity, but I can intensely feel pretty much anything pulling more than 2-3 amps of 120VAC power if I put my hand on the cord.
I think most people aren’t trying to sense 120VAC power lines with 240W to 360W of power flowing through. Basically a lot of electronics and lights are now so efficient you’d be hard pressed to find a 120VAC “cord” (something plugged into an outlet so you can access the wires) pulling even 100W… unless you had a strip of 3 or 4 old 100W incandescent bulbs plugged into the same outlet and you were trying to sense the power running through the wire between all the bulbs and the outlet.
Perhaps a large appliance like a corded vacuum cleaner might do the trick, or best option would be a plug-in 1500W heater… anyone with a magnet should DEFINITELY feel that… just grab the power cord and you should get a nice buzzing with 1500W flowing through those wires.
In short, I think the problem is people are expecting to be able to sense the ghostly whispers of like their phone charger or something… and the fact is there just isn’t enough power being pulled for most people to be able to sense anything.
Add to this the complication that nobody ever really explains exactly what the heck they are actually trying to do… no description of the setup, no information beyond “I can’t feel anything in wires”… it’s the informational equivalent to taking your car to the mechanic and saying “it broken”. I do really appreciate you provided the amps and voltage of “pretty much anything”… but what exactly are you feeling? The “thing” or the power wires the thing is connected to? Both? What are some examples of these “things”? etc.
So side note to everyone - If anyone wants to compare notes about sensitivity, realize you basically need to be thinking like a scientist… completely describe exactly how and what you are testing… document everything… share everything… then maybe we can start figuring out some things
I reduced the load to 120w, and surprisingly I can still feel it, but my skin has to be around 1-3mm away instead of 5-6mm away with 400w. And even so, the intensity is around 50%.
I also tested my dryer which is probably pulling about 4.5kW. The dryer cable itself I start to get feeling about 1-1.5 inch away, the 10 AWG Romex starts tingling my finger around 2-2.5 inches away.
Joking aside, it would be interesting to have a more controlled load and better measurement and compare against another fingertip Titan implantee.
Other random things I can feel, I will add as I think of things:
Something in my laptop, I don’t know if it’s the fan or power delivery, but it’s definitely an alternating field.
Heated steering wheel in my car (faintly)
Microwave
Transformers
My RTX 3080 under load (300w) can be felt quite strongly on various parts of the board as far as like 4 inches away (not sure how it felt significantly stronger and more distance compared to 450w through Romex ).
More unstientific data, but my best unintentional experience was with my Chef’s Choice 15xv knife sharpener on my xg3 v2.
Went to use the bugger for the first time and thought I was getting electrocuted until all the pieces came together and I realized it was the magnet talking.
This analog noise machine for sleeping absolutely amazed me when I turned it on for the first time. It’s incredibly intense and can be felt up to about 1 foot away (Maybe even slightly more, I’ll get an exact™ measurement when I’m home from work). When closer, around 2-6 inches, it creates such an intense sensation—it feels at least five times as strong as a microwave, if not more. It’s significantly stronger with more distance compared to a standard box fan or computer fan.
If you have a magnet and want a fun gadget, I highly recommend picking one up, especially if you already use a noise machine for sleep. It’s genuinely the best noise machine I’ve tried, as it essentially functions like a fan, producing a natural, non-cyclical sound with a wide frequency range.
I mean… already possible but working on it too. Characterizing sensitivity is the main goal of ZINC . I’m just exploring better ways to implement that…
Can confirm the gpu thing, not sure if its due to my real bad coil whine or what but that thing is about the strongest thing ive ever felt, aside from an incredibly high powered electric motor
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