What are you making ⚒️ / 3D printing 🖨

My concern isn’t the STLs… it’s the fact you basically have a laptop running their software and a fully functional computing device (the printer), both connected to China at all times. Remember, every company in China is basically an extension of the CCP/CPC, and they have the ability and motivation to have those machines doing more than just printing things. That ability can remain dormant until called upon to perform whatever it wants. Basic network monitoring can be done in a totally undetectable manner.

I’ve run the Alibaba app on a burner phone and watched it report back tons of stuff to China including audio streams, captured in a way that really fucks up your audio output (especially to bluetooth speakers), but it does it without tripping the Android microphone notification. Clearly using a hack or vulns in the stack, which is why it makes regular audio output jenky and prone to cutouts etc. I discovered this by accident on my day to day phone which I use all the time with bluetooth speakers. After installing the alibaba app, all audio started borking hard. Uninstalled it and things went back to normal. Now I have an older IoT phone with cams and mics taped over (tested, works great) and that’s where I have all my IoT nonsense etc.

The Bambu printer is firewalled from the internet for now… as is the surface tablet I use to slice and print… I can transfer files via SD card for now. I have VNC on the surface tablet for easy remote control from my desk and file transfers work fine over the local network to the table. I also like the ability to cache and load regularly printed things to the printer itself for each picking and printing regularly used parts from internal memory… though I don’t have anything like that yet that I print a lot of… but maybe in the future.

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Pretty sure you can run the x1 in local only mode… you just loose out on remote control and monitor

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I was about to mention that but really was not willing to go into details(because(it’s offtopic) and if exploited things start looking very ugly). It’s a perfect reverse shell(sleeper mode).Install this proprietary software and trust us, it does what it does. Firewall - no worries, you wanna print, open your ports, or worse upnp and everything works like a magic. There’s missing security patch on the machine that runs the soft - great, it’s explotable and then magically the iface goes into promiscuous mode, or even worse, 0 day and same result or maybe some arp poisoning. Oh this new shiny printer has wifi. Perfect we can snoop all the comm in the air for your AP. Only cool stuff. And speaking of which few years ago a colleague of mine showed me smart switches from china, that actually sends traffic back to motherland.

Btw how is the smell when printing? Does it really need a filter? If so I have an idea feeding the airflow from the printer enclosure to a air purifier with carbon and hepa filter( big as a trashcan).

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It comes with a carbon filter insert. I’ve not noticed any smell at all when printing PLA. I’m sure after a while you need to buy a replacement carbon filter cartridge eventually. I don’t have any other material to test though. Just PLA.

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Pla and petg pretty much have no odor,
Abs asa and a lot of the others have odors and VOCs

The unknown concern is micro particulates in the air which happen pretty much anytime you heat plastic up

Petg being sticky does tend to reduce it a bit

With pla or petg just run a heppa

The crazier stuff you’ll want carbon

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Yeap… Hence why I’ve been hesitant to get any IoT devices off aliexpress. Managed switches should be more popular for home use and I need more vlans but most people don’t care as long as things work…

Yikes! I never trusted that thing but wasn’t expecting to get my paranoia confirmed like that.

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You can get away without a managed switch. I’ve never seen an IOT device you have to plug into the LAN. If you get a Wi-Fi access point like a ruckus R710 with unleashed firmware, you can set up guest networks that isolate clients from LAN traffic.

Personally I have managed switches and vlans and use pfsense for my router and ruckus access points in mesh for my WiFi. Got 3 vlans… one for me and my business stuff, one for my household stuff, and one for iot stuff.

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That’s why i like my Prusas.
The MK3S+ runs with a RPi and octoprint while the XL has an ethernet port.
Both can 100% run offline/local.

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Yet another print that takes 5 days to make at the printing company, and on the slicer it takes 2.5 hours, printed at the highest resolution. Shoot I am getting a printer!

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Bambu Lab’s MakerWorld is way better than I was expecting. It’s their take on Thingiverse/printables, but focusing heavily on direct printing.

Rather than uploading just an STL, ideally you upload the 3MF project file with all of the preloaded settings (layer height, supports, etc). Users can upload different setting profiles as well, different layer heights, etc.

Then, you can browse and print models directly via the app, no PC slicer needed.

I had assumed that they were pre-slicing the files on their end at upload, for each of their machines, and just storing gcode for the actual prints (similar to how Printables allows you to do, esp for Prusa machines)

It’s way cooler.

Once you select a model you’d like to print, the app walks you through this:

It slices on-demand, in the cloud, with your synced filament presets and everything. So it pulls the correct flow rate, temp, etc. I was able to pick my custom tuned PolyLite PLA preset, and it just worked.

Also, you can increase the number of print copies, and it will dynamically do bed layout.

A lot of companies have tried to do cloud slicing and pre-sliced file repositories, this is the only good implementation I’ve ever seen.

I literally just picked a model, picked my filament preset, and it was printing.

https://makerworld.com/en

The site is browsable on PC, and is how you upload models, but currently it opens the projects in Bambu Studio (still pulling all of the settings), and you push the print from there. Definitely intended to primarily use the Bambu Handy app.

Something I want to say about Bambu Labs as a whole:

I’m not a fan of making things cloud-based for the hell of it, or forcing you to use any of it, but Bambu Labs really doesn’t, and when you do, it’s a good experience. The app works, Bambu Studio works, it’s seamless. I don’t feel like I’m installing a random piece of bloatware, it’s a well engineered fluid application.

Also, if anyone actually read this low: As @Eriequiet mentioned, all Bambu Labs machines (idk about the A1 mini b/c it’s brand new), can be ran on LAN only mode, no internet needed. The experience is very similar, you slice in Bambu Studio, it can push it to the printer over LAN, and you can monitor it from your PC. The Bambu Handy app doesn’t work in LAN only mode however. You can also just use SD cards like amal is doing.

A lot of people in this thread seem to be missing that fact.

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Also, forgot to say what might be one of my biggest uses for this:

I’m away from home pretty often, and occasionally see something I’d like to print. Thanks to remote monitoring, if I had a laptop, that would be easy via Bambu’s cloud service, and I could watch it as it went. However, I usually don’t have one on me.

Now, as MakerWorld builds out, I can easily just be at the dentist’s office or something, browse MakerWorld on my phone, think “that looks cool”, and then send it and have it be finished before I get home. That’s a really neat concept.

Note: Both of my parents are home usually, if something ever goes horribly wrong and I can’t just cancel the print, I can just text/call them and have them unplug it. Most people won’t have that as an option. Some people accomplish this by using a smart outlet, and just turning it off remotely if need be.

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This part doesn’t work for me. My surface tablet is on the same network as the printer but I can’t push prints when the printer is in LAN mode. I can only use the SD cards. I’ve not even used the handy app tbh.

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Huh, weird. Assuming you don’t have wireless isolation or anything on on your network?

Does it connect otherwise?

Might also need a firmware update. AFAIK the only way rn to push firmware updates is to connect them to the internet once.

No idea. Just curious, haven’t heard of many issues with it (besides people either forgetting to insert their SD card when in LAN only mode, or the SD card not being fully inserted).

Glad the workflow is fine for you regardless. I did use microsds for my prior printers, although I’m glad to not deal with that anymore.

Not isolated… but… I am firewalling the Bambu printer at the pfsense router from the WAN so it absolutely cannot get out of the LAN… my hunch is simply putting it into LAN mode doesn’t completely stop it talking to the Internet.

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PLA smells kinda nice. ABS and ASA are a different story…

So don’t worry about it if you’re only printing PLA.

Or ask Amal for a full robot conversion and leave those fleshy problems behind…

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Some 3D printer boards have connectors for RGB LEDs, is it worth adding some to a printer?

Maybe as a status indicator? But I don’t really understand unless you’re running a print farm.

Depends if you’re a gamer

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I like Titanfall 2, played Soma, most Valve games, etc… And I still don’t understand what’s with all the RGB.

Gaming PC manufacturers needed a new way to make money so they decided that PCs without RGB were not “hardcore” anymore. The trend probably came from peripheral manufacturers like razer.

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