So a couple weeks ago today I self installed my first implant, the xMagic in L0. I found that was going to be the best option as we use LF for our readers at work and could still use the HF for other mifare cards. I was able to clone my badge to the implant early and have been checking its read capability periodically. Unfortunately we do have several different types of reader types. slowly I have been able to get good couplings. I used the field reader to find the best spots.
I know I’m still in the healing but can confirm that cloning my badge is successful but still found two readers that are still not wanting to read. The first is the same model as another that is working just the one that is working has a keypad as well. The non-keypad reader looks to be a HID 5455. It puts out the a decent field just cant get that couple.
Second I’m still not sure the model, but checking it with the field detector its showing both LF and HF. I’m still researching but thought I could still post incase someone knows. It seems to be set for proximity as the field is on the briefly with the detector card before shutting off. If its putting out both and reads the HF first with no good handshake does it kill the fields, or would it pass to the LF side and try for the handshake there before stopping.
Side note: I did place my order for a NeXT v2 that just shipped and plan to install that in R0. I decided that one so I could have the secondary t5577, but to also gain the HF NTAGI2C ISO14443A and blinky.
Yes. I was using that at first and definitely helped with the first couple readers to find that sweet spot. I busted out the card to see if that would help as well. I can see the field and where the best placement would be and still not getting a couple.
ok jsut fyi the card will not help you position your x-series xMagic because the antenna geometry is entirely different for the card, and in fact may mislead you as to the best position to go for.
when trying / checking with the xFD (and with your implant), sometimes it makes sense to try the edges;
The red line is basically presenting exactly flat against the side.. easier for the xFD than your hand, but worth checking. The green is basically at a 45 angle, on the corner edge. Sometimes the antennas inside the reader wrap around the exact perimeter of the case and provide good coupling there. Try around all the edges not just one as the antenna may be offset internally (close to one edge but not another).
Ultimately though you might need to see if you can sneak an rsp sticker on to the reader to see if you can create a little spot for yourself to tap at.
I’ll give that a try! Tomorrow when I get back to the office.
That might be a good idea! Are they reversible? If I could place it on the inside? I should have ordered som in my recent order for the NeXT v2. Just means I’ll have to place another order soon haha.
make sure you are keeping your implant perpendicular to the antenna.
It may not be the right aproach for your specific reader, but I think it’s worth a try.
As it is a dual freq reader, the LF antenna is PROBABLY around the perimeter so approaching from the outside swipe in → through is likely your best chance (unless asymmetrical like Amal mentioned)
IF the LF Antenna is more central, the start in the middle and swipe outward.
Search for a teardown of your specific reader online, that will help immensely
if you have permission, a disassembly will help and also allow you to add RSP’s internally
Outdoor/pinpad readers are often thicker and bury the antennas a little deeper due to this.
Yeah reversible is an odd way to put it. I more ment if the repeater sticker is a one way or it it would boost the signal either way if I could stick it inside. You answered that as well. I can get access to the inside no problem and that might be the way to go, after a test that is.
I had a chance to use the xFD and got the led all throughout the perimeter. But still not getting a couple with my xmagic. I did look at the RSPs and saw that they are for NFC. Unfortunately we are using LF . But I’m still determined to find that sweet spot. I know there’s readers at putting off a decent field as I done need the card to be right against it, rather a coupe centimeters away.
As for one other reader I did some more research and it’s a multi frequency door handle that is passive. Do know if that’s has more of an impact on getting a good couple. I know I originally had a dual frequency ring from Ali that gave me a lot of kickback on that door.
I am taking that into consideration. I plan to give it more time and keep trying when I can. Thursday my NeXT should be coming in and I’ll be able to give that a try as well.
I got a ring to have the convenience of no badge and worked great till it broke. Then I divide to take the plunge into an implant and I’m already getting my second. There should really be a warning about these. “May cause desire for more”
Update. I got my NExT v2 in yesterday and installed. I’m very happy with this install as it was my second self install and this was clean. On top of it going into R0 and I’m right handed.
Even with it just being installed have it programmed for my badge and it will read in all the previous mentioned readers plus I have been able to get it to open the one multi frequency door handle reader. Still have to get it just right but it reads.
I’m still down to just one style reader that’s hates me . This one seems like it would be the one to give me lest resistants as it’s has a further read point for most cards. The keypad version of it is reading just fine but there are two of the non keypad ones that just don’t want to read.
My apologies. I had made a video on my iPhone but it was wrong format. Had to convert to upload. I just wanted to post a picture of orientation of the implant. The XFD lights up the whole perimeter. Here’s the video.
Again to be Frank, I just installed the new one yesterday. I know I need to wait and give it time to heal. I plan to do that while I keep testing. I just know I can currently open the same model of the reader with a keypad with both implants. Its just seems to be this model.
per the picture you posted above with best placement, I noticed the front panel had a hole in the front. where as the one im working with does not. looking it up it seems that the outdoor model of this does not have the hole. This is the same as outside as well. where I cant get a read on either. I’m not sure if there is any other big difference for weatherization that could be impacting the reads.
after you ran the xFD around the bottom, right side, and top (skipping the left side), then you started with your hand on the left side i thought “you’re killin me man!” but you did run it around to the other sides eventually
They can be removed.. they are just stickers basically.
. But I’m still determined to find that sweet spot. I know there’s readers at putting off a decent field as I done need the card to be right against it, rather a coupe centimeters away.
. This one seems like it would be the one to give me lest resistants as it’s has a further read point for most cards. The keypad version of it is reading just fine but there are two of the non keypad ones that just don’t want to read.
