Makes sense.
This means the nails as they come, on top of the chip for a Wedge… might still be viable.
Might… Let’s see how the example we got implanted behaves within a couple more months.
I would still be apprehensive with them (with or without resin backing) on a disk form-factor though…
It sounds like this is a manufacturing process difficulty exclusively that cased this decision, is there much concern about the ones that did survive encapsulation failing in vivo?
And should they fail, do we expect it affects the reliability of the tag as a whole or just the LEDs?
yes both manufacturing issues and it is still unproven if the resin coating will actually help the LEDs survive in the wild… a lot of unknowns… too many… so I’m just shutting it down until we can sort a better solution.
not necessarily… they will just stop working but the chip should still work fine in the flexMN or flexMT with LEDs.
Yup, I’m doing that. PaulT is also doing something similar. The NFC fingernails are also flex PCBs, they’re just design, fabricated, and populated very poorly because they’re cheap disposables. Feel free to ping me if you want to chat about it sometime.
Exactly what I would be concerned about! 
Those are made as mass product in China, what do you expect.
Would it be a responsible decision not to install it
but rather wait for a (possible) 2nd gen alternative?
possibly yes… it’s up to you of course… it might be worth it to you to put it in anyway.
Infuriatingly, my dead flexNExT’s blinkies are still working perfectly fine despite my hitting them repeatedly in the workshop…
Say Amal, would it be a solution to stick them on a hard backing - like a piece of credit card? They’d be hard spots on the larger flexMN, so perhaps not great for the final package. But perhaps it’d work.
As of: install the chip, pray not to fail, wait the 2nd gen to come out and swap if needed?
Maybe but ultimately a redesign and quality manufacturing is the best option so we gonna do that 
So far I am happy to have mine in.
Not only because that little dot of light sure does bring me joy, but also because we can gather more data about it.
I still want to implant the nails by themselves as well (got some ready).
And I stick by my theory that the disc shape with varied rigidity is the big issue forcing those nails to bend in a way they are not meant to. So having my Wedge blinkie for a few more months should help with that.
Also @anon3825968’s case is another good indicator on this theory.
Not discarding that these nails are indeed of poor quality, so really happy for @amal’s approach of R&Ding a better solution.
Indeed…
Although so is basically everything techy, Such as every Mobile Phone out there!
Except for iPhones. Those have each component properly hardened with children’s tears. 
Blikies? Sure, I’m convinced.
But…
Nowadays I kinda like preserving my remaining assets.
And this includes acquiring the least scars possible.
Yeah yeah I’m hip about that. Just thinking aloud is all.
Dusting off the box of implants recently…
Keep finding treasures 
I’m wondering what to do with the blinky, but @Greydoc is probably still cloning aliens and without reliable and available local installer I chicken out AKAAW🐔
I might try to stick it on a bent plastic to protect and put it in a watch strap. 
If you can get to Manchester, @Equipter would probably install it for a beer 
Also nice to see you back
Thank you! Thank you!
I’m really wondering about a magnet in R-0, I miss sensing EM 
But I need to make sure that I can wear the implant on the long run.
I started to develop sensitivity to metals. 
My hand hurts if I count pennies…etc
I’m know to be sensitive to Ni, one of my watch bracelets (sold as Ti) is alloyed with something so even that is just sitting on the shelf… It makes me itch in minutes 
First, I’d like to take out the Titan I currently have and see what happens.
Also to book a test, but it takes at least half a year to get an appointment for “free”.
Sigh… I’m getting old 
@Eyeux did you end up putting it in? has anyone recently?
Yes!! I still got mine in! And it’s going steady!!
and a couple of spares sitting outside, still in their pouches.
Worth mentioning that my flexy LED on the hand takes quite some punishment from an active lifestile
The ones outside are all still working fine.
The one on the hand, I feel it did loose a little bit of the brightness at some point.
It’s interesting that this is not a “continuous decay”.
At some point I noticed that it was a little bit less bright than it used to be… and it kept at that diminished brightness for some years now.
Another thing I notice is that if I use something like a KBR reader, I can’t really notice any diminished glow.
But if I present to a phone, it’s quickly noticeable.
Which brings the question… is it the blinkie, or more modern phones have lower-power NFC coils? 
