Bounty to Fry an HF Implant

oh no i dont want/need a replacement 0or discount. if I do it its on my own shoulders, I have a plan to remove it anyway so I’m gonna try it


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I used this stepup converter to charge camera flash capacitors


A circuit breaker to short the capacitors to the coil


This is the coil


The tuning of the coil took ages because i dont have equipment to measure the resonance so i had to calculate how a spool with x dimension would behave and then wind it like that - and then it didnt worked for a long time because i could just not verify how the tuning is…

in the end it worked out and i was able to zapp two glass chips with it

the capacitors were just shorted to the coil after charged.
i burned through a whole lot of switches until i had the idea to use a circuit breaker for it.
based off my calculations the coil had a resonance of 14mhz but in the end i had no way of measuring it so i cant know.

after sending my results to satur9 it told me that my coil had probably 10000x too much inductance but it worked anyway :sweat_smile:

This one inspired me


That’s awesome.

And we have our fourth completed bounty!

I’ll sort out another reward with mrln since I already sent them an xG3v2 and shipping overseas is no joke.

I’ll renew the bounty for any other forum members who can do so with a novel method. Raw LC Tank resonators like this are officially off the table though.

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Hi, so i don’t know, if anyone tried that yet and also have nothing here at the moment to test it by myself, but this Idea just came to my mind: what if you just put them on one of these iduction cooking pot heaters (i have absolutely no idea how they are called in english, picture attatched) and turned it up to max?

I’ve tried xFDs and no luck
can burn out LF LED after a while tho

Oh, bruh, i’m an idiot xD
Sorry then :sweat_smile:

I guess I could bypass the microwave door safety switch, and run it with my hand inside…

But i guess then you would have bigger problems, than your implant breaking xD


There must be a point where I can cook my hand and have it heal/recover. And also a point where it causes irreversible damage.

Cooking implies protein folding which is irreversible.


Ok, but is it replaceable? Cells die and get replaced all the time.

Depends… dermal skin cells are very difficult to replace once destroyed.

How can we protect from the high voltage with spark gap emp generator?
I have a project where I need to make one, but I don’t want to fry my implant …

PS: if this too much of a thread hijack, I am make another …

I wouldn’t worry. Your flesh will attenuate electric fields like that. I highly doubt the same attack vector is valid inside the body. Maybe in a couple months I’ll get a bunch of x-series and try and fry them all in-vivo with these methods we’ve discovered.

If you really want to protect an implant against pretty much any type of EM attack, cover it in aluminium foil


Good to know, thanks :+1:
I wasn’t sure if aluminum was good enough or I needed lead sheets (I have some somewhere, but I’m not quite sure where they are … Probably in my anodizing tub …).

I have a spark I’m not planning on injecting … I might put it in some chicken and try it out …

Lol nah it’s not radiation. You’re not absorbing the energy of particles you’re deflecting the flux of magnetic fields. Physics is complicated, but don’t worry too much about it. If you can’t read an implant with your phone through it, you’re safe from most environmental hazards (from that direction).

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Thanks :+1:

I work on “high frequency” power generator (~20Khz@~20KV) and did a lot of test with them before getting the implant, never managed to fry one …
I just don’t want to find out now it’s implanted :grin:

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13.56MHz / 20kHz makes it the 678th harmonic of the fundamental frequency. Even if your waveform has a 20kV amplitude and is purely resistive (so there’s no current leading or lagging introduced by inductance and capacitance), you would still only experience mV range magnetics within your implant. Even if there was a chance high amplitude spike at 13.56MHz due to random constructive interference, it wouldn’t overcome the ESD protection of the NFC chip, and it wouldn’t persist long enough to induce heat in the circuit.

I have an interesting experiment you could try. Take a small bit of magnet wire wrapped around a ferrite rod to emulate an RFID implant (doesn’t have to be carefully constructed at all, any size/gauge). Hook that up to the leads of an oscilloscope. Hold it near enough to your power generator that you can detect a signal. Save that complex waveform, then perform a Fourier transform on it. If you can even get a tiny blip at 13.56MHz I would be very impressed.

EDIT: I’d pay a bounty for some pictures of the setup and that waveform/Fourier transform

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I’ve been wondering for awhile now if lower sharp edge frequencies can power led implants by using the lower harmonics. The primary coil antenna would have to be designed for minimal induction to allow for the fast rise and fall times though, which would affect it’s area of influence.

Electroboom demonstrates sine wave harmonics compared to sharp edge harmonics @ 9:00

Destruction with EMP Device, Understand and Battle EM Interference - YouTube

Can everybody tell that I like Electroboom?

Also wouldn’t a helical coil reader big enough that the entire implanted hand/arm/foot be placed inside, have the best coupling with helical coil implants? My ZVS driver coil operates using a sine wave at around 100kHz but a 13.56MHz field detector is still able to shine when placed directly inside the coil.

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