Hi!
Been thinking of maybe getting a payment conversion at some point.
Living in Norway so Walletmor doesn’t seem to be an option unless their payment provider gets support for NOK. I’ve seen that there are a few local banks with “mini cards”, but those still expire relatively quickly. Then I found out that Curve (they support Norwegian banks!) seem to have gotten a few different wearables, and from what I can tell they should be reloadable/re-personalizable? Curve wearables
One of them is the “Astari”, which I see someone has already successfully converted:
…then again i could also just get a ring or bracelet and not have to deal with having to figure out what could get converted, or deal with getting it installed… but where’s the fun in that
Using a Curve partnered wearable is definitely a good option.
I spent about a year trialing 4-5 different providers, before settling and getting the Astari fob converted.
I’ve had it for a few months now, and still very happy about it. The range is extremely good, and it also has a built-in NFC tag which links to a business card page that you can customize from their app. Neat little extra thing.
The one thing to consider is that since the entire chip gets covered in the DT biopolymer, the final implant is fairly big and somewhat stiff. This is not an issue as such, but I just thought I’d let you know.
Yeah the size/stiffness worries me a bit… Do you perhaps have approximate dimensions of the finished implant? Do the sharp corners of the implant cause any issues?
I don’t believe I measured it. I don’t know where I would’ve noted it down. I can try to measure it on my skin when I get my hands on a measuring tape
Until then, if you have an X-series, you can see the side-by-side I posted in the original thread.
It happens on occasion that I feel a slight needle jab in the area around the implant. I assume that it’s the nerves healing though, and not the implant itself. In any case it’s very minimal and not an issue to me.
Depending on the size of your hand, knifes edge or the back of the hand may not be a great install location. Going over the wrist in the lower forearm may be a better location if you’re worried.
How about P3 (or thereabouts)? How much flex is too much? What about narrow flexes like for example the ug4? It honestly feels like one of the more practical locations scanning wise.
Definitely much better. I’ve had two payment conversions in position 3, and one in position 4 (#thereisnoP5). Honestly it’s been easier to read P3 because the knife edge bends the antenna around a curvature and you have to press your hand into the reader which some of them with screens don’t like. Regardless though from a durability perspective for flexes and for a position integrity perspective for x-series I don’t think the knife edge is viable for anything at all.
I want to add to the discussion about knifes edge, that this implant is quite different from a flex-series.
The chip part comes from a leather keychain, which means that it does have quite some endurance, as it’s used to being bent and tossed. It’s designed for it, to some extent.
When converted, the chip, which usually resides inside the keychain, is simply covered in the biopolymer. This means the implant itself is quite big, bigger than a normal flex-series, the antenna has a much easier time reading and I believe it’s also quite sturdy.
I don’t even have to be in contact with the payment terminals for my payment to go through.
I’m not saying the knifes edge is a recommended position. But my experience so far does not align with the general consensus at least. I’m willing to take this risk for the convenience of the location as well as not having this rather large and thicc implant on the back of my hand.
Maybe I’ll have to eat my words at some point in the future. But there’s always some risk with these implants, be it a mechanical failure or the chips being blocked from use…
I have the same thought, I want to do a conversion of a Pure bracelet and I think it will be quite similar to the size that your conversion was and so far I want to do it on the razor edge of my hand for the same reasons I think it is a place where it can be inserted and it will be more comfortable for me, well for now that is my thinking when I already have my paid conversion physically then I will really decide where to implant it.
I’m going to have to settle for 3 years for now until Vivopay comes out. I made a mistake and bought a Walletmor and now I have it sitting there in a box decorating my nightstand for not reading and looking for more information. Thanks for your help.
was and so far I want to do it on the razor edge of my hand for the same reasons I think it is a place where it can be inserted and it will be more comfortable for me, well for now that is my thinking when I already have my paid conversion physically then I will really decide where to implant it. 
