Custom 5mm flex installation needle now available

That is a prime example of

For me personally on that same scale
I would give it a 0.3

However, there are also some key words here to consider

Let’s put in some context, that ~ half of us can relate to “a kick in the nuts”

So I would say that my 0.3 is too generous, I would prefer getting 33 Flex needle installs even if they were at the same time over a kick in the nuts…

I dont know :man_shrugging: Pain is an individual thing…

The more installs I watch with this needle the less scared of it I get and the more I want a flex :smile:
@Pilgrimsmaster didn’t you mention at some point that your implant being inserted antenna first made it a bit awkward to read?

Don’t want to derail, but I just have to tell you how much I love good ol’ Doug Bradley as pinhead :heart_eyes:

Nope, Not I, little buddy

Got my needle today in the giant box of stuff

Surprisingly seems a lot smaller than I imagined

(Is there a chance I ordered the wrong needle?)

i think people built it up in their minds to be this huge shank… but it’s just a 4G needle… nothing too outrageous. If you’re concerned, post a photo and I can confirm :slight_smile:

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I’m not that concerned,
Just making sure there’s only one needle

Only one offering would imply you messed up which I doubt,

More than one offering, reasonable possibility I was stupid and didn’t make sure what I was buying

hah nope we only have one needle available so that’s it!

If i do Piercings i try to use a bigger needle, so it can heal better - without that much tension. For a 1,6 mm piercing i use a 2.2mm needle.

Still don’t know what the pain of the normal needles is like…but I’m definitely going need some numbing gel for that.

Lol naaaahhhh. You can take it. Don’t worry.

On many piercings, my piercer does the opposite - needle size is usually a tiny bit smaller than the jewellery, to apply a bit of slight pressure to reduce bleeding. Depending on the spots you pierce, this can be quite helpful - you still have a bit of dried blood to cover the wound and prevent stuff from getting in, but you can get back to daily life very fast without having to worry about sudden bleeding :wink:

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I think it depends on where it’s going, the looser the skin and or the amount of nerves in the area

Top of my wrist felt like nothing

L4 stung pretty good for a bit, as the skin didn’t want to cooperate and let the needle in
I also have some nerve damage in that area, so that might have amped it a bit, but I’d still say like 6/10 for 30 seconds

L0 was a twinge, but nothing bad, maybe 3/10 for a couple seconds

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It’s not just the needle sometimes. When I got my xEM in my foot, just pinching the skin hard enough to tent it up hurt twice as much as the injection itself, because the skin is really tight and quite thin there.

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For me it depends a lot on the case. But I try to stick to the correct needle size.

Use it too big and it takes longer to heal + has risk of infection for longer.
Use too small and it might trigger a bad reaction from the body.

Of course that this is talking about piercings, not about using a needle to create an appropriate pocket!

Talking about this 5mm needle, we have it tested to 11.2mm wide flex implant pockets, and that was quite a close fit.
Maybe it could do a bit larger, but might end up with a similar effect as to piercing with too small a needle.

Now talking about the pain…

It does indeed. even more than"where", I would say “how”.

Sometimes apparently silly actions such as pinching enough the region in advance, or even breathing exercises to get into the right mindset, can be the difference between “unbearable pain” and “not even feeling it”

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Not everyone can / should… those who tend to nearly pass out (or actually pass out) may very want / need / be helped by numbing gel - that doesn’t mean that they should avoid implants and I think it should not be considered a cop-out.

Good point, idk if I was ever properly prepared… we’ll see how next one goes.

Palpating / tenting the skin prior to can only help to separate layers.
Here is a video of Amal doing just that at the 7:27 mark

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I knew about the tenting, but continued watching Amal prime in action always learn some stuff

I didn’t know

  1. That chlorohexadine continues to work for a while

  2. That it can be pulled in, and cause a burning sensation ( pretty sure I felt this, wasn’t a issue but I enjoy knowing why you’re feeling things )

The girl was a classic vasovagal, interesting to watch it unfold…

Also can I just mention on that topic, something the I man body while fascinating, can be utterly stupid?

I was pretty afraid of the needle when i got my flexm1 inserted.

It didn’t hurt much, more of a really uncomfortable pushing/ripping feeling.

Didn’t help that my blood pressure dropped and i almost passed out but other than that it went well

Doctor Amal will see you now:

“Okay Miss, I’ll slide it in now. Ready? Take a deep breath… LOOK, NO HANDS!”