DOM Eniq with xDF2

Okay, so I guess these ones here


aren’t any safer?
Do you have any two-part locks you could show me? I never had any interest in locks (they were simply there…), but now I’m going to replace my front door anyway, so I think I might try out a new lock as well.

Same thing. The inner knob is dumb.

I’ll have a look, see if I can find the two-part cylinders I had found some months ago.

Now if you’re planning on changing your door, maybe you could have it morticed for Scandinavian lock cores, in which case you could use the Yale Doorman V2N (Mifare Classic, but pretty secure in my opinion), or if you stay mechanical, use disc detainer Scandinavian-style locks, which are better than pin tumblers IMHO.

I’m afraid that won’t work with my chip, at least according to the compatibility matrix… :cry:
I definitely need a lock which works with my flexNExT :wink:

And to be honest, no matter what lock I use, it’s still easier to smash the window next to it and break in that way…^^

Then it’s not a sensitive application, and perhaps the faux-secure NFC cylinders are okay for you :slight_smile: They won’t prevent a knowledgeable burglar from entering your home, but as you say, it’s not the only weak point anyway.

Also, even if the lock is properly made, if you go for something that opens with a NTAG’s UID, it’s as secure as coupe car with the doors locked.

I like that comparison^^
And that’s because it can be hacked relatively easy, right? Like I said, still pretty new to that topic…

But actually - I lost my key today. This might be a stroke of destiny… losing a key is pretty bad for safety, I guess^^

Watch this:

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Pretty informative thing, thanks! :+1:

Actually - I store my cards in a rfid-shield wallet, always two of them together, because I knew of some of those basics. And I know my hand might be read…
But considering how well-known implanted rfid-chips are around here (like, not at all), how many strangers know of my implant and its use and how much I keep distance to others due to a slight social phobia (like, staying the hell away from 95% of all people^^), I think the risk is - currently - relatively low. Like, it’s technically absolutely possible, but I don’t think it’s a risk I encounter on a regular base. I might be terribly wrong about that, of course. And I’ll definitely keep on researching and talking to the company who’s going to build my door and all that, since I’ve got quite some time left for the decision…

Absolutely!

Security needn’t be absolute, just adequate. A UID-based lock isn’t very secure, but it might be enough if you don’t live around nefarious techno-geeks or workmates. Hell, I’m a bit of a paranoid nutjob and I use UID-based authentication just about everywhere - locks and computers - and it’s perfectly fine, because the risk is low. Likewise with the NFC cylinders, if you don’t live in a nasty neighborhood, they could do the job too.

Just be aware of those products’ shortcomings and decide if they’re appropriate.

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Hi all, long period of silence. Life has been busy. I will forward some of the remarks given above about security to Dom and ask what they have to say about it. Just a quick post for now. It appears if you use data on card (new feature) that the eniq app writes desfire apps to the card. The UID in the screenshot is from a cheap card, not my hand. :wink:



One is without desfire apps (before) and after adding card in app it does have them. I don’t know anything about how they implemented it of course. But I will ask.
As I said, quick post. Will get back here after I hear from DOM. Will also add some pictures of the internals when removing the front cap. (Will have to see how far I can go without breaking stuff :laughing:)
Have a nice day!

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Is there any news o this, bought a tapkey lock and cannot get it running on NeXt chip implant.

How long was your NExT installed?

Have you tried an xFD?

My NExT was installed 7-1-2022
and my NExT works fine with a Paxton system on my Work.

I installed the DOM Tapkey Pro at home, but when i want to add the NExT in the Domkey App as a NFC tag i got error.
I there a other way to program it to use with NExT ?

Hey Hello,
I have bought the DOM Tapkey Pro but cannot add it in the phone application.
I tried to add it under NFC-transponders.
I have an NExT implant but when reading it gives error.

Do you know how to program the NExT with the DOM Tapkey Pro ?

What’s the error?



Its in dutch but says: Something went wrong, try again.

Could this be the reason

This is probably one of the most brilliant things I’ve seen in terms of frustrating and irritating bullshit companies try to pull to extend their revenue models.

But at the same time I would much rather a company offer this option instead of simply forcing you to buy there off-the-shelf chip with some special key codes in it, and not let you use the same off the shelf chip because they didn’t sell it to you.

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*cough* Keysy,\ iCopyX *cough*
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Where did you find this info ? Where can i add a non DOM tag ?

I have contacted DOM and they told me that with the DOM Key it is not possible to use a external NFC Transponder.
It only works with Tapkey transponder and BLE.

Only the ENiQ-systeem of TAP works with external transponder.

So i choose the wrong product …DAMN