One note is that I think you loose the log function if you program directly (no app) but I’ll test this weekend.
Yea it’s expensive 
€450 for starter kit with MasterCard (must have one) plus 5 DOM tags ( for wife or other “un-enhanced” humans)
After that €400 for just a cylinder.
This is the link to the DOM product site:
DOM Eniq Pro
Do you have a strong magnet?
I kinda want to see my lock @ LockPickingLawyer before I buy it.
I kinda feel so sorry for lock makers. Its like software and hardware security. U see broken into what you have developed for years. Really love LPL’s channel tho.
But what about the phone app? It just makes the entire lock soooooooooooooooooooooooo unsecure.
EDIT: I wanna know. How does the lock auth? UID or is it more secure than that?
That bit that tells me that the company is out to shaft their customers any which way they can. Also, it’s clear it’s an internet-enabled product that’s I’ll have problems with at some point, when the internet goes down, or their app goes funny or incompatible with my phone, or the company goes belly up, or they decide to charge me some more for something I already paid, or they stop the service, or they end-of-line the product…
I had seen that product when I was looking for an RFID / NFC door lock. Thanks to your detailed review, I’m 100% sure I want to stay clear the hell away from it.
I figured that it is just the app usage +enable smart features of the lock.
There is a casual master fob enroll your tag thing for free according to the op.
But yeah, I don’t want my lock to have bluetooth wifi or whatever…
I’m currently thinking about buying this lock (because it’s easily available here in germany, looks nice and should work fine with my flexNExT), so I’ve got some questions about it. Do you actually use that lock? Any news on how it works with implants, if it really uses the UID only, and how “safe” it is as long as you don’t use any app or whatever with it? I plan on using only the mastercard for programming, so no app, no bluetooth, no Wifi…
Yeah, I know that nothing in this world is totally safe, but will it keep someone busy for a longer time than a normal door lock?
All those NFC Euro cylinders have one deadly flaw: the entire mechanism is contained inside the outside knob. A good wack on the knob with a hammer, and all you need to open the lock is a flat screwdriver.
There are a few (can’t remember the brands) that have the mechanism inside the inside knob, and only the antenna on the outside. But they’re much more complicated, more rare and more expensive because they run a thin wire through the entire cylinder.
Put it simply: if only the outside knob is smart, stay the hell away from it for sensitive applications: it only gives the illusion of security.
Mh, guess the front door to my house is such a “sensitive application”? Is there a way to improve safety with those locks, or are there any alternative I can still use my implant on? And no, I’m not going to build one myself, I’m an absolute idiot when it comes to DIY-electronics. Except for my PC, of course…
The two-part versions are at least as secure as rest of the cylinder mechanism is - at least if the manufacturer hasn’t left any other flaw in the cylinder’s design, and there’s at least one that’s common to all Euro cylinders - the center bridge with the screw hole.
The one-part cylinders you see everywhere are just a big joke. I sure wouldn’t put one on the door of my house. The only thing you can do to make things better is replace the entire lock, but that usually entails modifying the door, and possibly the jamb.
Okay, so I guess these ones here
Same thing. The inner knob is dumb.
I’ll have a look, see if I can find the two-part cylinders I had found some months ago.
Now if you’re planning on changing your door, maybe you could have it morticed for Scandinavian lock cores, in which case you could use the Yale Doorman V2N (Mifare Classic, but pretty secure in my opinion), or if you stay mechanical, use disc detainer Scandinavian-style locks, which are better than pin tumblers IMHO.
I’m afraid that won’t work with my chip, at least according to the compatibility matrix… 
I definitely need a lock which works with my flexNExT 
And to be honest, no matter what lock I use, it’s still easier to smash the window next to it and break in that way…^^
Then it’s not a sensitive application, and perhaps the faux-secure NFC cylinders are okay for you 
They won’t prevent a knowledgeable burglar from entering your home, but as you say, it’s not the only weak point anyway.
Also, even if the lock is properly made, if you go for something that opens with a NTAG’s UID, it’s as secure as coupe car with the doors locked.
I like that comparison^^
And that’s because it can be hacked relatively easy, right? Like I said, still pretty new to that topic…
But actually - I lost my key today. This might be a stroke of destiny… losing a key is pretty bad for safety, I guess^^
Watch this:
Pretty informative thing, thanks! 
Actually - I store my cards in a rfid-shield wallet, always two of them together, because I knew of some of those basics. And I know my hand might be read…
But considering how well-known implanted rfid-chips are around here (like, not at all), how many strangers know of my implant and its use and how much I keep distance to others due to a slight social phobia (like, staying the hell away from 95% of all people^^), I think the risk is - currently - relatively low. Like, it’s technically absolutely possible, but I don’t think it’s a risk I encounter on a regular base. I might be terribly wrong about that, of course. And I’ll definitely keep on researching and talking to the company who’s going to build my door and all that, since I’ve got quite some time left for the decision…
Absolutely!
Security needn’t be absolute, just adequate. A UID-based lock isn’t very secure, but it might be enough if you don’t live around nefarious techno-geeks or workmates. Hell, I’m a bit of a paranoid nutjob and I use UID-based authentication just about everywhere - locks and computers - and it’s perfectly fine, because the risk is low. Likewise with the NFC cylinders, if you don’t live in a nasty neighborhood, they could do the job too.
Just be aware of those products’ shortcomings and decide if they’re appropriate.
Hi all, long period of silence. Life has been busy. I will forward some of the remarks given above about security to Dom and ask what they have to say about it. Just a quick post for now. It appears if you use data on card (new feature) that the eniq app writes desfire apps to the card. The UID in the screenshot is from a cheap card, not my hand.
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