Endochron Implant

How long would it last? If I had something like this I wouldn’t mind tapping my phone to it 1 or 2 times a day to get it to stay on. You could also use readers that you have around work or at a store right? I can already imaging using a payment terminal to “charge up” my watch implant. That’s how it would work right? I don’t see it as too inconvenient. Excuse my ignorance lol I haven’t been paying to much attention to this thread.

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I’ll have to do some math and it’s late. I’ll get back to you tomorrow

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eInk! That could be possible to have always up to date but visibility would be a bit shit without a bright light. Thoughts? Sort of like a dynamic tattoo

Correct me if I’m wrong, but while e ink screens are supposedly fixed in place and require little to no power to maintain a display… I was under the impression they require MORE power to flip the pixels…

meaning a constantly updating e ink display might suck down more power than an led

But I might have it twisted

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That depends on the version, i believe. I did not really understand everything on this E Ink - Wikipedia article, but from what i read on other sites, wich i dont exactly remember, the different versions use different amounts of power.

Check out this thread:

Has anyone done the maths on power production and usage?
I will if I can get an idea of the parts you’re thinking of

Just want to write down my thoughts so I don’t forget ignore all this:

Could we do 14 segment displays for more possibilities? Shouldn’t use more power except when using the extra segments, but might need a bigger chip to run it. On the same train, 2 digits?
Could it be user programmable? ie open source and flashable, maybe with fedismo?? Don’t know what the platform supports.

MY SISTER’S IDEA
would it be possible to develop the implants on the assumption that the spec sheets of the beatvolteics are right, and then integrate them without technically using them during development? What are we allowed to do without a licence? Would each owner need a lisence? How far can we stretch it?

Have you approached a university or other research place about using their lisence? I’d be happy to see if I can find some people in my course who could make this a reality

Ok I think I’m actually going to do this as a project for a bit, the licence for Victoria, AU look like they’re only AUD$1300 (USD$900).
@Satur9 have you had any actual communication with either betavoltaic producer? Would they really be only $16 each?

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Widetronix and Citylabs were the only ones I found that offer surface mount options. That’s just the roughest of estimates from Chris though. Larger order quantifies will obviously create lower per-unit costs.

If you can get things lined up, I’ll contribute funds, and I know leumas95 will as well

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Done some maths, and this is looking a little grim (EDIT maybe not, at least one of sites hasn’t been updated since 2011). I just picked this display because it’s the thinest I could fine at 2mm (not great but can be reverse-mounted and maybe hacked a bit? I’ll buy a few to test)
The second one is just the lowest current rated one

Unrelated: where did the name Endochron come from?

EDIT: I had some fun and made a logo, this is number 3
Endochron 2

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Endochron 0
1.Reduced spacing

Endochron 1
2. Removed background

Endochron 2
3. Reduced space around E, c, and r (no longer monospace)

Endochron 3
4. Bottom aligned n, h, and r

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I made it up

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Made any progress with this? I could reach out to Widetronix directly and see if they’ll honor an AU radioisotope license if you can give me more information. Chris Thomas is the CEO and he is the one I was talking to.

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I sent through my application for the licence yesterday (they ask for payment once it’s been accepted), and have talked to Chris on the phone and set up a zoom meeting for Monday. All looks like it’s starting to fall into place

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How are you accepting donations?

I’ve just been writing down what I spend money on Here, I don’t feel comfortable taking advance donations so if there’s anything expensive I need (like the licence or the batch of betavoltaic) I’ll ask on here

@Satur9 if you have a document already I’ll add to that, otherwise if you request access to the doc I’ll let you edit

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Sounds good.

Anyone seriously working on this can dm me also. I ain’t got unlimited money, BUT, some will help get you to the goal.

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I don’t want anyone to be at a loss, I’m hoping we can share out the profits so anyone who donated gets it back then proceeds go to DT and whoever actually manufactures them

Actually, a bit of help with what I’ve already bought wouldn’t go amiss, plus I bought some test equipment but I’ll keep that for the rest of my life so I didn’t list it in the sheet, I’m a student and working part time so if you want I can take some money off you

Was there any clarification if the license was only needed by the “manufacturer”

Or could each customer theoretically need one?

I doubt that would be the case… my company works with a lot of tritium, and it’s in many of our products and the customer isn’t required to do anything but not eat it lol

But it may have to do with product approvals
Idk, the nuclear materials compliance it’s not my wheelhouse,