Been planning on getting another implant, this time a flex one. Checking the Ksec website I see huge discounts, because of the clearance. They have sold almost everything and chatting via email I learn that the partnership with DT is ending because of supply/stock issue.
I have no idea how this tariff situation will resolve nor how it impacts you. Would I bare the increased cost as a customer? Idk honestly, depends on how much.
Now I wonder why I even look at EU options, if you guys provide free shipping, bonus points if you write a bogus price for “spare parts” or something.
On the topic of flex implants, I see that Next, MN and MT are discontinued, me only being interested in flex Next atm. EM will serve as a plan b, hopefully Il manage to wait for new products
New products? I see Next V2 is out and the whole flexible ordeal has been sub par in terms of reliability. So redesigns are happening, any info on flex next v2? Larger implants? How larger, idk like 7x7cm, just thinking out loud for this one.
What are you looking for out of a (flex) implant? What’s the use case here?
You want a solid bit of storage space for NDEF? FlexDF2. You want cryptography? ApexFlex. Need a T5577? FlexEM.
As far as I can tell, the Flex issues have been almost fully due to either LEDs (like the FlexNExT) or to poor placement (bending often or a lot can bust the solder joints over time). Slap a flex on the flat parts of your forearm and you shouldn’t have an issue.
Might have seen it the first time around when searching, just doesn’t pop up on the first page of results, which in terms of SEO is bad, but it has some interesting things, thanks.
For now just need bigger range but I’m following the development of Vivo, Apex, payment solutions etc.
FlexEG seems to be a solid choice for now, placement probably wrist, not sure about it yet.
Thats what a Flex will give you, but as @Not asked " Whats the use case?"
You mentioned a couple of HF Flex, but then you mention the FlexEM(EG?)
Which is LF.
If you tell us what you want / trying to achieve, we can give you some advice.
As far as the FlexEM, It is awesome for its purpose, but if you dont have that purpose, I would suggest it would be a waste.
If KSEC are having a sale, grab what you can whilst you can.
Allow me to give you a super brief explanation on a couple of popular HF Flex options ( All my opinion, others may have other suggestions for you ) I have all of the below and speak from experience
ApexFlex - Ultimate online security, think YubiKey but MORE, utilises Fidesmo to handle app installation and Apex Manager to allow you to…welll…manage you Apex
FlexSecure - Almost identical to the ApexFlex, except you can’t use Fidesmo, but you can DIY with Global Platform ( more info if you choose this one ) It does come pre-loaded with the popular applets.
FlexM1v2 - Highly utilised in the RFID public access and security systems eg, work places, Hotel gyms, pools. Very handy, deceptively small, but punches above it’s weight class. It’s not a skeleton key, but it has its place.
FlexUG4 -This is as close to a skeleton key as you will get, it still has limitations, but it does A LOT, I will add though, the current version has some antenna / range limitations compared to others, but it still works; there is a revision in the works, but unlikely that KSEC will sell that one.
FlexNT - This is what I would call the best Business card, it does more than that, but if thats all you want, its perfect for the job
If you wan’t anymore info on a specific implant, fire away, there are links we can send you with plenty more info also
Thanks for the answers, my approach is sometimes in reverse, not having an immediate use case but having capabilities to meet such goals should they arise, hence the Next.
So i am okay with having a chip that is capable of stuff that I don’t need at the moment. But I have noticed that some readers respond worse to others, can they wear out? It’s funny because in this one scenario, they are 50cm aparat and should see equal use or wear, yet one has below 20% hitrate, sure you can attribute part of the failure to my bad coupling positioning. Having a bigger antenna should fix all these issues I hope.
Opportunities to utilize the implants are not abundant, currently rfid part of my next is serving as a work key fob. Nfc is a cool party trick for first impressions.
At some point I will take a look at door locks. Apexflex is definitely interesting, surely down the line will be an addition.
Feature I would gladly use, the one currently not possible, is payment.
A ton of systems run on MIFARE Classic. The FlexM1 and FlexUG4 will work with these. Newer systems may run off of MIFARE DESFire, though it is nearly impossible to clone one of these, so it would have to be a system you have some control over (ie your own house door locks). The FlexDF2 will fit this use well.
Conversion service is a ducked tapped jury rigged brute force of a way, which I don’t shy away from employing in my life but maybe not something that combines finances and bodily procedures.
I have read about other options, which are also negatively looked upon because they use a middleman bank as a way of circumventing the Mastercard / Visa thing.
Apologies for the RFID part, I do make the distinction between LF and HF, but I will admit that there is still ways to go in terms of knowing newer generations and compatibility between them. Issue I have for example is wanting to have a streamlined upgrade path. I know the real world doesn’t work like that. So HF would only have one “branch” when moving through the generations and I would just pick the newest chip that is backwards compatible with all of them. Want the best HF pick this? , want the best LF? , pick this.
Lazy on my part, but on the other hand, how would I know what do I need, unless I scouted first all the terminals and what not, places I plan to use the implant, then decide what I need. Like I said, I’d rather try and be equipped to handle what ever comes my way.
Could also be that it’s overwhelming at first, until I get you get it.
FlexEM seems to be the choice then.
What about bigger antennas, guessing this would be a custom thing, if it’s even possible. Has It been tried? Current sizes are those because of cost / practicality of instalation / practicality of use etc.?
I mean you could…but also, the FlexEM is already great performer for its size
Thats not even close to accurate.
When you buy a DT or Vivokey product “off the shelf”, they are the result of a batch run
However
The conversion service a one off / bespoke product, so if anything, there is EVEN MORE care and attention paid to the process / product.
Thats what you are paying for, The materials, the time, the knowledge and skill, the care and the final safe implantable product.
Having a few of these myself I can assure you of that.
It’s a great way to get exactly what you want.
So if you wanted a larger antenna for your LF access solution, that is the option I would recommend.
Apologies, didn’t mean the way DT handles the service, in which I have 100% faith in.
I meant that it’s stil not native and requires work arounds. Me having to swap the chip every 4 years, and in turn go to a surgeon, doesn’t sit well with me, I’m okay with the phone paying in this case .
Question about antennas was more akin to limit testing, purely theoretical.
Speaking of the Flipper, will i outgrow it at some point? I am assuming most LF stuff I meet is the cheapest oldest stuff around. Serbia
Im not sure of current and future development tools that are planned for the flipper.
But, it is a very good tool, and is probably all you need for now, it does “everything” LF, and only has a few limitations in the HF space, But I woukdnt worry about that until you need to, Then, your Phone will be able to do some stuff, and a PM3 would be the next edition to your arsenal to handle everything else.
I mean yes, generally it is suggested to identify your needs, then fill them, but…
If you wanted to be able to handle 90% of what could be thrown at you in the future, excluding tech that doesn’t exist yet, you could get a handful of implants to cover all basis.
but maybe not something that combines finances and bodily procedures.
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