FlexNExT not reading - Excess liquid above it?

[Eyeux]

Sorry to hear it’s not getting better yet… let’s just hope your body reacts over the next few days!

[anon3825968]

@Coma

These are two pictures I took this morning… like I said, it’s getting red since the second day of swelling, but other than that, not much change.

Yikes I feel for you, really. I totally understand how you feel.

That’s one implant that demands to be deserved.

[amal]

If this weren’t happening so long after installation I’d say it was an infection and would require immediate removal and antibiotics… but being so long after, I can only assume some sort of allergic reaction to the adhesive contaminants. I’m surprised the doc didn’t suggest OTC antihistamines to address that possibility. I would call them back and ask them about this if it were me.

[Coma]

@amal

I’m surprised the doc didn’t suggest OTC antihistamines to address that possibility. I would call them back and ask them about this if it were me.

I’ll be visiting him again if it’s not getting better over the weekend, and I’ll ask him about that
What do you think about the damage-from-inside-theory?

[amal]

Yeah damage is a possibility… but this level of reaction seems unlikely from just a bit of tissue separation.

[anon3825968]

@amal

I can only assume some sort of allergic reaction to the adhesive contaminants. I’m surprised the doc didn’t suggest OTC antihistamines to address that possibility.

If the adhesive is soy-based, I’m surprised no-one has suggested a cataplasm of nori sheets, rice and sashimi to soak it all up.

[amal]

@anon3825968

If the adhesive is soy-based, I’m surprised no-one has suggested a cataplasm of nori sheets, rice and sashimi to soak it all up.

This statement was almost enough to make me find a plugin for discourse to add a laughing reaction… almost

[Coma]

@amal

but this level of reaction seems unlikely from just a bit of tissue separation.

Ah, my artist managed to break the pocket of his own implant (not open, just inside the skin), and his hand was swollen “like a balloon”… had some weeks of fun with it

@anon3825968

nori sheets, rice and sashimi to soak it all up.

Leave the sashimi out, I’m vegetarian… maybe I make some tofu with my implant?

[Cybornidas]

@Coma

turned red over the implant itself, is still swollen and hurts a bit. Nothing unbearable, just pretty annoying, constant, low-level pain

I’m also sorry to hear that you are still struggling with this, but i kinda expected also that this redness might get more. The friend of mine that I mentioned had a similar problem. It was getting red and stayed this way for nearly one week, after this it was getting much better day by day. I asked him and he said after about three weeks everything was normal again. (Healing time is different for everyone) At least from looking at the photos it is all concentrated directly at the implant area, knowing also that this is no inflammation is good for you. Scar looks very nice btw. (Greetings and respect to Arnulf, i like how he cares even during the German lockdown)

@Coma

I visited my family doc here, and he was incredibly relaxed

A relaxed doc is the best what you can have, calming down someone who is worrying can have a significant influence on the healing process.

@Coma

keep an eye on it for a few more days. I was really surprised he didn’t advocate for instant removal, but he found the chip itself quite interesting

Yes, keeping an eye on it very closely is important, even small changes can be important indicators. Making photos of it regularly can help seeing even small changes.
If this doc likes this implant as much as i do, he will try to do the same as i do. Trying everything which is possible to avoid a removal. But i have confidence that you know your body far more better than anyone else. So you will also know best when the situation gets unbearable for you.

@Coma

the whole swollen area is slightly painful

This looks normal to me.

@Coma

little red spot (I mean, darker red…) near my knife edge that just hurts a lot when I touch it… and if I touch the opposite side of the rim (which leads to the implant pushing on that red spot from the inside), it hurts pretty much as well

This is interesting…if you mean the same spot that is visible on the photo, this might be the area of the possible interior injury. This would explain why pressure on the opposite side hurts also more, because it forces the implant in the direction of the red spot (possible injury).

@Coma

@amal

I’m surprised the doc didn’t suggest OTC antihistamines to address that possibility. I would call them back and ask them about this if it were me.

I’ll be visiting him again if it’s not getting better over the weekend, and I’ll ask him about that

Good point from Amal, and good choice from you.

@amal

damage is a possibility… but this level of reaction seems unlikely from just a bit of tissue separation

Every body reacts different. I see this when i try to compare between surgery results or giving people a hint in how long a recovery from a specific surgery might take. It’s simply impossible to know in advance. Some people have no issues with healing process, others having a lot of trouble getting any better.

@Coma

my artist managed to break the pocket of his own implant (not open, just inside the skin), and his hand was swollen “like a balloon”… had some weeks of fun with it

Ouch, can imagine that one… and here you see that even a pro can struggle with such things from time to time.

I will keep an eye on this topic. And…

@Coma

Thanks a lot! For your time, your thoughts and your wishes, and as well to everyone else here - I’m surprised and honestly a bit touched by how caring this community is

Don’t be surprised anymore about this community! We are strongly connected by the interest in… Well… Dangerous Things actually

No problem, i have a little bit more time now with my holidays, hopefully i can be around here daily from now on. Even if my first official day off, today was another big private scalpel work session for some installation of interesting new projects i was working on.
(Finally also time for another project inside of my own hand, self install / assisted by my wife, all going well, but typing is slightly painful for me this evening)

[Coma]

@Cybornidas

The friend of mine that I mentioned had a similar problem. It was getting red and stayed this way for nearly one week, after this it was getting much better day by day. I asked him and he said after about three weeks everything was normal again.

Thanks - this calms me down a bit more, though I’m not really happy to run around like that for three weeks… sigh^^

@Cybornidas

Scar looks very nice btw. (Greetings and respect to Arnulf, i like how he cares even during the German lockdown)

He’s just the best artist I can think of - skilled and a wonderful person . So glad I found him for all the funny stuff I’m still planning!

@Cybornidas

Yes, keeping an eye on it very closely is important,
(…)
But i have confidence that you know your body far more better than anyone else. So you will also know best when the situation gets unbearable for you.

Yep… usually, I listen to my body relatively well… and this is honestly still on the edge between “okay, I’ll just stay calm” and “hell nah, this has to get out”.
What worries me are the technical problems of other implants (@mattsudo - sorry for totally hijacking your thread, how’s your implant doing?) as well as the risk of having the rim cut into the pocket again. I’m fine with going through this once, but not several times… guess I’ll just wait and see what happens.

@Cybornidas

This is interesting…if you mean the same spot that is visible on the photo, this might be the area of the possible interior injury. This would explain why pressure on the opposite side hurts also more, because it forces the implant in the direction of the red spot (possible injury).

That’s exactly what I thought - this special spot feels really sore, almost as if the implant was new. I think an allergic reaction would be more evenly distributed - but I have little experience with those, so I’ll have that checked anyway

@Cybornidas

Some people have no issues with healing process, others having a lot of trouble getting any better.

Sadly, I tend to be one of the last
But that lead to me becoming a total aftercare-specialist for my own body, at least for cases where I can actually do something

@Cybornidas

Don’t be surprised anymore about this community! We are strongly connected by the interest in… Well… Dangerous Things actually

You’re right - but I’m still grateful for your help, as well as for the lot of help I got from others here. Feels really nice

@Cybornidas

(Finally also time for another project inside of my own hand, self install / assisted by my wife, all going well, but typing is slightly painful for me this evening)

This sounds very interesting! Mind to share what you’re working on?

[Pilgrimsmaster]

Hey @Mariarangok are you happy with your thread?

I can easily separate @Coma posts and replies into its own easily justifiable thread if you would like, and I’m sure @coma won’t mind.

I’m happy either way

[blackhawk]

If it was a good take the healing time be minimal. Swelling should subside within a day or two.

Bacterial infections aren’t the only thing that can go wrong and some of the worst infections are fungal*.
They are typically slow growing and some can only be treated by complete removal of all infected tissue.
There’s also a new multiple drug resistant strain called candida auris which can easily go systemic and has a high mortality rate.

If you provoke an autoimmune disease the outcome can be unpredictable, possibly severe and lifelong. Inflammation is never a good sign… take it seriously.

*a full autoclave cycle is needed to kill some of these spores.

[Mariarangok]

I’m confused, this wasnt my thread… although did briefly hijack it a few days ago… for what it’s worth I’m pretty happy with it and read it regularly

[mattsudo]

I started the thread.

Actually I’m pretty happy with it right now. I don’t see a problem by keeping it the way it is.
Guess everyone is taking this thread as the current status of the flexNExT

Also would like to know what you guys think about it

[Coma]

@blackhawk

Inflammation is never a good sign… take it seriously.

I do - there is none. I had that checked at the hospital…

@blackhawk

Bacterial infections aren’t the only thing that can go wrong and some of the worst infections are fungal*.
They are typically slow growing and some can only be treated by complete removal of all infected tissue.
There’s also a new multiple drug resistant strain called candida auris which can easily go systemic and has a high mortality rate.

I know all that, but… you do know that the implant was inside for 4 months now? This is not freshly installed…

@blackhawk

If it was a good take the healing time be minimal.

Sorry, but what on earth are you talking about? I’m a bit confused… A flex implant defintely has no “minimal” healing time, and with a case like this, it’s even more unpredictable…

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Mariarangok

I’m confused, this wasnt my thread

My bad! sorry.

@mattsudo

I started the thread.

Actually I’m pretty happy with it right now

Cool

[Eyeux]

@Cybornidas

(Finally also time for another project inside of my own hand, self install / assisted by my wife, all going well, but typing is slightly painful for me this evening)

Looks like we have a single-handed typing club going on here!

Curious now, though!
And thanks for all your support here too!!
Amazingly detailed posts!!

@Coma

my artist managed to break the pocket of his own implant (…), and his hand was swollen “like a balloon”

I’ve seen similar stuff…
It might actually take quite some time indeed for recovery…

The redness being focused on the implant is also a “good” sign at least.

@blackhawk

If it was a good take the healing time be minimal. Swelling should subside within a day or two.

Got confused here…
But a Flex NeXT has no “minimal” healing time yet.
I would guess at least 6 months healing time on the back of the hand before you can consider yourself on the safe zone.
And both allergic or internal trauma scenarios can take a full week before receding, easily.

@mattsudo

Guess everyone is taking this thread as the current status of the flexNExT

Also would like to know what you guys think about it

That’s what seems to have happened!
I personally find it more useful to have one single thread about issues with a specific item, than one per user.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Eyeux

I personally find it more useful to have one single thread about issues with a specific item, than one per user.

Yeah, totally, I just wanted to make sure the OP was happy also, It is still on topic

[anon2520759]

blackhawk always leaving me like

[Eriequiet]

This is my first time reading his comments, and I can’t quite get a bead…

Can’t tell if he’s one of those people who thinks they are helping but are really projecting and sowing seeds of hypochondria and fear

Or being a troll