I can read/write the NFC Magic chip, and I can read from the T5577 chip. Only thing I’m having difficulty with is writing to the T5577 from my Flipper Zero. I’ve used F0 to write a bunch of other cards and stickers, but I seem to have difficulty writing the implant.
FYI, the implant is very newly installed, so I do understand if my skin just needs some more time to heal and that will somehow do something to the chip.
Mostly just wondering if other people have had similar issues and I need a PM3 or something. Just trying to stay ahead of the curve here. I’m already a happy customer just from the working Magic 1k chip.
You should wait a couple weeks. My Xsiid didnt have much swelling and i was able to read/write and see the LED immediately after install and i never had any noticable swelling and healing was about a day or so.
My Xmagic though was a different story. Same process of installing the Xsiid, but the gauge needle was a bit larger. I got quite a bit of swelling and it took about 2 weeks before i could even get a read on the Xmagic on either side.
Nothing to be concerned with. let your body do what body’s do and itll be fine. The flipper in my opinion is a bit more userfriendly than the PM3 just because of how generous it is with its continuous read, so you can learn the proper way to position it to get a read vs the PM3. So just wait a bit before you pull the trigger on it…
Or wait for the next new new from DT and bundle it in.
I used the X Field Detector that was included in the kit to figure out where on the Flipper the signal was the strongest and the many places around the flipper where there was no or very little power. Long story short, with this additional information from this wonderful tool (thanks!), I was able to easily program the RFID part of the xMagic.
Thanks to the community for reassurance. Now I’m jealous of @Hamspiced with their xSIID. Maybe I’ll go that route for L0, but not until the next new new thing from DT comes out.
Dont be jealous! i love the Xsiid, i just wish the 125k lights were in stock so i can have my own field detector in my hand.
I also am waiting on the next thing. I keep telling myself its going to be something similar to the Xbt. or maybe Dsruptive releases a new version of their Temp Chip but with other features like BP monitoring… I keep going back and forth about a magnet i just wish the current glassies had sensing.
I installed my Xsiid in R0 and i decided afterwards for ease of use to change the position of my Xmagic.
Using the 0 location between my thumb and index made for very awkward angles that seemed unnatural to me. so i did lots of self testing (taping the detection keychain to parts of my hand) and it seemd for the Xsiid to be at R0 was perfect for my use case (Sharing contact info/rickrolling/venmo links) to peoples phones, with how they hold their instrument.
For access however, L3 made the most sense and felt the most natural for me. I am right handed, and presenting my left hand thumb up gave me the most natural range of motion in presenting to wall mounted vertical scanners. Everyone’s use my differ, but i have my Xmagic at L3 slightly more towards the wrist than most of the DT Diagrams have for placement just to avoid the extensor hood.
@Pilgrimsmaster
Adding to this thread, I had also [just] gotten my xMagic implant installed and can’t seem to get it wiped or written to with the T5577 chip with my Flipper Zero. I can read the T5577 and read / write the NFC, just the write for the T5577 portion isn’t working.
Is it really the healing process that will allow the Flipper Zero to write to the chip? Is there a way to know if it’s defunct? I’m worried it may not be writable. Thank you!
Including a picture of what the Flipper Zero reads when scanning, just in case.
Thanks for the heads up on the screenshot ability, I was kinda lazy tbh.
As for what I’m looking to clone, it started with my work badge which uses the HIDProx protocol. Then attempted my apartment’s gate badge which uses the H10301 protocol. Then finally attempted to write what I was able to read and save from the implant and that hadn’t worked.
I did attempt many times to use the T5577 wipe ability the extra actions offer from the Flipper, unsure if it’s part of the RogueMaster build specifically, but wasn’t able to wipe it.
I hope it’s just that it needs to heal and not that I’m anxious about the chip being read-only currently. Thank you!
I just did an artificial test with a known working T5577 chip and it was able to be read but not write. I distanced the chip much further away until it was able to read but couldn’t write to it.
I think you’re right and maybe I’m just anxious about it not working. I’m sorry. I’ll give it time before attempting once again. It’s my first chip and I haven’t experienced write errors since the only chips I’ve worked with are much larger than this chip so they have responding antennas. I’m just super excited to have this implant since it’s been a long time coming for me.
Thank you for your patience! I hope it works so no news would be good news!
Good call.
2 things
There is a chance of data tearing when trying to write with poor coupling, it would be low, but not non-existent
IF yours was read only…That would be more than extremely weird.
I don’t think we have EVER seen that, and would make you the first and ONLY.
So, VERY unlikely.
Also, The Dangerous Things process would have to be vhanged to do that.
I’m pretty sure Amal or (Michelle ) used to use a PM3 to write to them, and later the Flipper.
I’m not sure if its still the Flipper, but either way, I dont imagine the process has changed enough to make xMagic T5577s read only.
In ~2 weeks time, try again, but dont bother wiping, just overwrite.
AND if you have a silicone cover on your Flipper, you could try removing it, but you shouldn’t need to, and just shouldn’t yet, but could, but dont…
Thank you so much! That definitely gives me a lot of confidence. Earlier today, the NFC became more difficult to read so definitely is the swelling in the hand. I really appreciate the notes of confidence and look forward to using it in a while!!!
Returning back to this, I was able to get it to write, so definitely not a faulty unit! I’m still struggling to get it to read on certain readers, but I know it’s because of the swelling.
For those who may come across this thread with the same concern, the swelling in the hand causes issues for reading and writing to the low frequency chip because it requires a closer proximity. The solution is to wait it out until you’re able to fully read and write to it, so please do not panic.
I am still waiting for the swelling to go fully down, but I’m glad I’m able to write to the chip! Thank you for your help @Pilgrimsmaster
I was trying my best not to reply to this very old thread, but I wanted to comment on your read issues. The antenna on the implant is small and directional. Use the included LED chips to figure out the orientation to perform a good read from it. You might need to rotate your hand up to 90 degrees for it to read correctly. That and then readers have a large area, so you need to make sure to place your hand in the correct spot. See included photo
Other commerical readers (like door access or elevators) will also have very strange patterns. So placing your hand in the center of them isn’t normally the way to go. Placing your hand near the edges of them tends to work better. Again, the LED helps a ton with figuring out where and how to place the chip.
Thank you!
I’ll give it time before attempting once again. It’s my first chip and I haven’t experienced write errors since the only chips I’ve worked with are much larger than this chip so they have responding antennas. I’m just super excited to have this implant since it’s been a long time coming for me. 
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