I want to start off with saying I am not a lawyer, none of this is meant to be guidance for what you do.
If I was in your situations, I would first determine if I really need to work at this place or not. That should be the deciding thing. Do I need food and a roof? Can I get another job in a month?
If I were to decide that I would like to continue work there, but I donāt want to remove my chips, I would consider letting them know they are violating my religious rights. By saying I do not have bodily autonomy, I am a card carrying member of the Satanic Temple who says I do.
If they still say it is a security issue, I would order 4 of the pet chips online, and give them to them to say it is done, and ask for a reimbursement, since HR policy doesnāt state that I cannot have invisable body modifications.
If I were in your shoes, I would reach out to the satanic temple, and to the ACLU.
Really just comes back to the one question⦠How bad do you need this job?
Yes, sadly it comes down to that: do you need a job badly enough as to compromise your bodily integrity for it, on spurious unfounded reasons given by a random dude in a position of power in that company.
So itās really as simple as I thought? I was afraid that I was missing some important bit⦠because this is so anti-social itās hardly believableā¦
This is kinda true, I see it where I work - we sometimes have really bad employees, and itās hard to get rid of them⦠but there is always a way to do, and I happily accept this drawback if it leads to a generally more fair working environment.
John Perry Barlow wrote a nice little text about thisā¦
Iām always a bit surprised by that attitude - especially since the chance to āstrike richā is even lower because of the anti-social laws in the USā¦
Same here - I just had some conversation here that Iām actually totally okay to pay taxes (itās some kind of sports here to avoid that as much as possibleā¦^^), simply because they are, among other things, used to provide the safe and mostly-calm environment I can live in. Thatās nice, I think
Yes, thatās another gift of the nanny state: when you have nothing to fear, you have less stress in life, which yields a longer life and a better quality of life.
I donāt know if youāve ever set foot in the US for any length of time, but the one thing I remember of it is this: you canāt live there without experiencing a constant background level of stress and paranoia. I noticed that when I moved to Canada: it was like some pressure suddenly let off inside of me.
You donāt know what it is it until you experience it - something most Americans donāt get to do unfortunately.
Yup and there is the problem I need this job or I wonāt be able to pay my mortgage and I sure as hell donāt have the money to pay for a lawyer let alone pay for a lawyer and be out of work. The people I work with are great the rest of the work environment is great. I sent them more info and she said she would look over it with the security guy. So if they stay this line after telling me they will look at the info I feel like I have a place to go. Iām also wondering if I can reverse the discrimination, something tells me the security guy is a mark of the beast kind of guy and if that is the case Iām being discriminated against because of someone elses religion.
Personally I would just nick my skin to make it look like they were removed. I would bring a few in a baggie to physically show them. Hell, I would even rub my blood on them to make them look removed and gross them out.
After that, just not bring it up until I want to ruffle feathers.
If you want to PM me your state info, I can try to look into the law further
Submit.
Take them out, and try to deal with the unhappiness.
Dodge.
Try to fake your way out. I donāt recommend this as it makes you the asshole.
Quit.
Take the high road and find more accepting employment.
Advocate.
This would be a second full time job. Work with/through organizations like the ACLU, and try to create a protected classification / precedent.
Were it me, I think a new job is in order. Especially as this is probably the worst thing you can do to them. That said, Iād find a job before quitting. And⦠If push comes to shove and you get fired, at least youāll have access to unemployment.
Point blank ask HR if this is where heās coming fom. They WILL deny it, but it may get them to examining security guyās motives on their own.
Can you quietly look this guyās facebook page up? If youre lucky heāll have posted conspiracy theories or religous b.s. about implants. Screen shot it and take that to HR.
I have a similar approach to happiness - albeit slightly different. I stick to two principles:
1/ Always behave honestly and decently. Donāt be a dick (all the time). And as sone fictional character once said, do unto others as you would have others do unto you. Iām old enough to know that good behavior is always rewarded, whether itās the next minute or the next decade.
2/ Donāt ever expect anything good to happen in life. If it doesnāt, well, no surprise. When it does - and it always does by virtue of rule #1, youāre amazed and you feel like the luckiest guy in the world.
With those two rules, I managed to pepper the world with very good friends, and I feel like my life is an unending lucky streak.
Totally agree on that - it just makes no sense to behave unfriendly. I try to stay true to myself, and I can take quite a (verbal) fight if neccessary, but I am usually a nice person. I think. Mostly.
Ah, that one I canāt agree to. It works for many people, so itās great if it works for you, but I am massively optimistic usually. Not naive and enough of a realist not to expect much from mankind in general, of course, but I just love to think positive. I am already happy when I imagine wonderful things, and double happy if they actually happen. If not, I was at least happy once
Is important as well
Okay, this doesnāt sound that bad⦠so there is a chance that theyāll not force you to take the implant out? I keep my fingers crossed for that, especially if the people you work with are generally nice guys and itās just one of them overreacting massivelyā¦
Says the guy with the depressive robot as a profile picture
But like I said, some people are very happy being pessimistic, and it actually works for them - I can hardly relate to that, but same goes the other way round. So I guess Iām okay with that
Damn, okay, I have to derail a little further - this here (yes, Iām in Barlow-mode^^) is one of the most positive (albeit admittedly naive) texts about the possibilities of the internet. I just love to read it from time to time, just to be remembered of the incredible optimism of those beginning yearsā¦
āThere are no poor people in America, only temporarily embarrassed millionaires.ā
Yup. I had a job once very briefly where it was very straight forward. It was a warehouse and you had to unload two trucks a day. If you missed the quota, you didnāt have a job the next day. There are always folks desperate enough to take the job while looking somewhere else.