I do have another idea…
there is some odd wording on the iCopy website that COULD be interperated as the iCopy only works with iCopy Cards…Which would be a dick move with proprietary cards, but if you are getting successful read / writes with the iCopy cards on the iCopy, that could also be a reason for not being able to write to your NExT.
Do you have non iCopy cards/fobs to rest with?
Again, I don’t know the answer myself, but hope you can do some testing for us…
aka Rosco had a question for you also
I was just looking at this after you said that and i too am not concerned that this may be the case, I will wait for a formal response from them, this would absolutely be a dick move. I love the device, its super easy to use and jam packed with feature that are much easier for a noob such as my self to grasp.
Well I guess I got my answer in case anyone wants to know, this device uses proprietary cards, so implants or Even blank cards cannot be used which is absolutely fucking ridiculous, they should really explicitly state that so people know
Yeah, it was my uncertainty over their vague wording that stopped me from buying one straight after I saw them.
It was literally fine print…easy to overlook.
Which I mentioned in the 2nd post of my thread
CUNTS
I really hope you can return it and tell them why.
Hopefully that is enough to get them to unlock their proprietary bullshit.
The premium price you paid, should be enough to encourage them.
I am also going to send them a message after I post this, and would encourage others that may be interested in a user friendly Proxmark or even to simply help out if you have a spare 5 mins to send a message
They may even consider selling a proprietary removal update to cover the cost of lost revenue of their cards…but I’ll keep that suggestion in my back pocket for the time being…
I wonder what it is with self-contained copiers, between the Chinese copiers that try to lock you out of the copies by passwording them and the iCopy that tries to lock you in with their pre-programmed blanks (I assume that’s what they are)
Also, if the makers of the latter think the money is in the consumable supplies, at least they could have the decency to sell the copier cheap. That’s how inkjet printers work: when you need new ink cartridges, you buy a new printer. But no: the iCopy isn’t even affordable! The mind boggles…
Do I finally was able to reach the seller and they are giving me a full refund which is nice, just super disappointed as this device works wonderful for cards( their cards only) but it’s mind boggling that they chose to make it work with their cards only, 90% of consumers don’t want to deal with proprietary nonsense, I updated the device and the new firmware does nothing to mitigate the need for their cards so unless they make a future update allowing the copying and cloning of any and all supported cards and chips then it’s going to see very little sales. Hopfully everyone considering using this device sees this. Maybe someone could crack the device and bypass it but I am not savy enough my self. The device does allow you to run PC mode similar to a proxsmark but they have messed with code somehow so it had a diffrent look and feel, still not allowing you to use what ever card you want
It truly is disappointing as this device is at its core a fantastic rfid multi tool device, but they killed it by making it require proprietary cards, I know they want to make money but this is not the way, if the device cost maybe $150-200 then sure it seems reasonable but at ~$500 it’s insane to not have the option to clone, write, or copy on any card/fob/chip you want, you can buy a $20 Amazon cloner to do that!!! It does have a super easy and simple to use interface, great battery life, and tons of features, but what good are those features when you can fucking use them. It’s such a waste of a fantastic device, I even tried using the PC mode which basically opens up a Proxsmark(ish) program but they have messed with the code enough for it to continue to require their cards only! At this point even it they offered me a way to update the firmware to unlock it for use on all platforms I’d be hesitant after this massive ordeal I’ve had to go through. I can’t be the only consumer that has been pissed off to find this out after dropping a stupid amount of money, the website makes it seem like the holy grail of RFID technology, which it really would be if they allowed it. Ahhh rant over sorry hahaha
It is quite a phenomenally stupid move for a niche product with very limited added value, with a customer base knowledgeable enough to know they want to fork that much dough on a high-end cloner and to realize they’re being taken for fools. If it was an irresistible mass-market product, they could get away with this possibly, but not here. No way.
In my mind, the use would suit 95% of their customer base (I just pulled that figure out of my arse), plus their cards are reasonably priced and you can get custom cards…so imagine a small/medium business, get staff cards printed and branded and an iCopy to manage access…
Pentester could use it with ease, pre-print facility card copy then write.
pretty cheap and easy for something that woukd pay for itself with time saving.
It is just unfortunate for our circumstances.
Don’t get me wrong I am hugely disappointed, I want nothing more than to be rid of my Proxmarks, I spent a bit of time yesterday adding them to a new computer and updating on another…not my idea of fun.
And all fore something I don’t want to carry around with me, unless it was self supporting (standalone) small and portable…like the damn iCopy.
I’m still looking forward to my FlipperZero but realistically for our use case I think the iCopy is was a better more suitable option.
Do one thing and do it well rather than a multi-colour that will do in a pinch.
Anyway, that’s my view on it…
As I eagerly await a reply email…
Just a reminder to fill out the Poll if you haven’t already and are interested
@Urminme before you send it back for your refund, could you do that test with your phone please
So I tried writing record to the one of the I-copy cards and it ended up saying error. Not sure if the cards them selves are proprietary or the I-copy XS hardware/software. I sent them an email and said “why would you make such an amazing device then basically brick it by requiring proprietary cards? If you guys sold this at less then half the price, it would be a good deal, but $500 for a device that can’t be used with any other chips, implants, fobs or cards other then the cards the make is just insane and if I knew this prior to purchasing it I would have never wasted my time and money”