Impatience consumed me. As expected

I’ve been meaning to ask about that for the Apex Flex… It wold just barely fit between the bendy bits on R8. unsure on how much strain it may put on things though

I have a feeling L8 would be a no go for me anyway with my tendancy to club my hand on every vertical and horizontal surface while I work.

I’m all for this numbering system as it makes discussing locations easier, of we can refine it is say add it to the faq


I think for any available flex that isn’t the FlexNT, 6-10 would be a no-go. The FlexNT is 22mm long to the Flex one Beta’s I think it was 35mm in length. I just have long fingers, so it might technichally fit me. I’m just not sure how I feel about having the imprint of something that large in my R1 or R2, which was the spot I originally had planned

Fuck, I only now realize what the L and R prefixes are referring to. I’m going to go have some coffee, paperwork is making my brain leak out of my ear.

I think I’ll be pondering L5 and the back of my wrist for Apex untill it is in my possession

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I was planning on putting a Spark at L3 and an xEM and R3. Would either of these interfere much with an Apex at L4/R4?

Technically we haven’t performed a bendy test yet… but if any part of it had to flex or bend the antenna section is the flexy bit… the chip section is, because of the mob package, not that flexible.

we may need to get a robot of some kind to do some flex tests on the antenna section… do like 1000 and check it… 10,000 and check again… that kind of thing. eventually the wire antenna itself will wear and break, if the polymer doesn’t start breaking down before that.

but… overall, the “flexibility” of a flex device is not necessarily to be able to flex regularly, but to be able to take blunt forces from outside that would temporarily deform the device while absorbing the impact, then return to its regular shape.

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yeah… the spark and apex max would interfere with each other… not in a signals way really, but more in a “i can’t get a read on the chip i want” kind of way… this is simply a geometry problem for the reader antenna, which is going to be quite large… it will probably be difficult to ensure the reader is positioned correctly over the actual chip you want to read if they are that close.

apex and xem would be fine next to each other like that though.


Well now I have so many thoughts about how many chips I want/need and where to put them… dang it all. This is gonna be a whole thing isn’t it?

“Honey, you know how I said I was going to get an implant in my hand, and you begrudgingly decided not to divorce me? how does… like… 6 or 7 of them sound?”

I imagine that it will be at least a LITTLE while before that convo needs to happen, and maybe it never will… but I certainly am seeing it as more of a chance now hahaha


What she don’t know, wont hurt you :wink:


TRUE, though might get tricky… “why do you have a bigass bandage on your hand?” “uh… er… I cut myself…uh… punching stuff?” “AGAIN? that’s like the 3rd time this year!”

I’ll need at least a few prepared excuses :stuck_out_tongue:

Bandages can come off in about an hour… basically once the bleeding stops for good, bandages can come off…


Well that certainly makes it easier haha.

“pfffff… you should see the bear…” :muscle: :wink:


That would definitely get a laugh at least!

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Found someone local to to install the chips. Now I just need to sort out where I’m putting what. Oy. DECISIONS ARE HARD.

Right now I’m thinking the NExT in my left hand (between thumb and index, uh, position 0 I suppose?), and the Spark at spot 0 in my right hand, and then when Apex drops, get the flex version for somewhere in the back of my hand, maybe position 2 or 3?).

I keep waffling on if I want to implant the spark or wait and get an injectable Apex for that spot… I have a few days of shipping time to decide I guess!

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Remember, The spark2 as cool as it is, will probably not be an every day use, and once the Apex is out, even less so.
Personally I would save the R0 spot for a more frequent use… potentially the Apex Max if you don’t get the Flex.

My opinion.
Save your prime real estate for a convenience implant…

Remember, just because it is empty now, it doesn’t mean you have to fill it immediately

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Yeah that’s why I’m… hesitant… what would be a good spot for the spark though if I’m saving R0 for an Apex Max?

I am assuming there is no way to fit a Apex Flex in the 0 spot.

Not to make your decision harder, but my opinion anywhere…
It also depends on what you plan for the future, Spark 2 is still pretty powerful and depending on what you plan to do with it would depend on the priority positioning you give it… it would still be worth considering one of the back of hand positions.
Spark2 will become a backup but it is more than just that… have a look at the vivokey website and think about what you want it to do to compliment the Apex…
Sorry, not a helpful answer I know but

:love_letter: :wink:

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I WAS thinking maybe one of the back of the hand positions for it, but it just seems like it would show a lot and maybe not be super comfy? I have fairly large hands, but pretty darn skinny. not a lot of finger or back of the hand…uh… meat? For a flex I’m assuming that would work out (hence why I was sort of thinking of the Apex flex for one of those spots)… but… I dunno!