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Sorry to hear that.
How long did you have your finger in the sachet?

About 2.5hrs

Weā€™ve got better stuff in. Testing nowā€¦ but I donā€™t think any kind of topical is going to numb internals like for a finger install. I know this stuff works on the dermal layer so Iā€™ll be testing with a lancet in the finger.

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Once you break the skin, the insides often need a little something something.

Iā€™ll let you all in on a secret that are use once itā€™s open I like to spritz a little bit of this magic juice on the wound and into it.

20 seconds later, I can continue my insertion of XYZ. Or removal.

Bactine First Aid Spray for Pain Relief and Itch Relief, Antiseptic, Anesthetic and No Sting Formula, 105 ml https://a.co/d/gE4L2nN

This stuff has gotten me through 20 or so insertion and removal/recovery processes

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I had my dead Walletmor replaced today and it is video-documented (18+ and canā€™t be embedded). Working with a proper skin surgeon was great, even considering this was his first time working with non-medical implants, proper local anesthesia helped the process quite a bit it seems. However weā€™ll need to work on the tooling, since the sterile flex ā€œpushingā€ tool we had available was very far from ideal, hopefully he was gentle enough and everything heals and works properly, if not, heā€™ll get a second try. Boring parts of video are edited out. Mute the sound or enjoy The Prodigy.

Also, can somebody please explain what is on right half of the following picture (dead implant post extraction on the left, its ā€˜coatingā€™ on the right)? Till now Iā€™ve had the impression the whole transparent part is a single-ish pieceā€¦

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Yeah, not the best.

Relevant part to you (Although walletmor may be different)

Additionally, the polymer coating is very robust, but very thin. If the flex device is handled with tooling such as forceps or tweezers or any tooling other than a sterile gloved hand, it could be punctured or damaged in such a way as to allow moisture to infiltrate over time and damage the internal encapsulated electronics.

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It looks like the encapsulation tissue, the pocket the body forms around the implant over the first months to isolate it. But honestly I have never seen it come out with the implant like that :eyes:

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iā€™m having a hard time understanding where this beef jerky stick came fromā€¦ when the old one is pulled out, it doesnā€™t look as though itā€™s coming out with the implant;

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ā€¦ unless was this something that was on the underside of the implant, obscured from view?

given the amount of stretching that guy did in your wound, he could have probably pushed his little finger in there just fine. the forceps he used to push it would have been fine if he had just kept the jaws closed and not gripped itā€¦ the blunt front face of those jaws is fine to push it into such a gaping pit :wink:

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The implant was indeed completely encapsulated in the thing. And after separating it from the implant, it turned opaque as photographed quickly. On the Amals screencap, it is seen on the outermost part of the implant coming out, it was perhaps even more dense on the other (bottom) side. So encapsulation tissue, no possibility of this being some kind of implant coating / biopolymer layer? A surprise for parties involved nontheless :slight_smile:

Noted the warranty update, but donā€™t get me started on the Walletmor one, differnet&difficult story/topic.

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Yeah that crazyā€¦ never seen that before. Itā€™s for sure encapsulation tissueā€¦ itā€™s probably all the ripping and tearing with forcepsā€¦ probably grabbed the tissue and pulled it out with the implant. I see some scalpel work going on so maybe they were cutting it away from the surrounding tissue because once you cut into the pocket, you can get inside it and grab the implant out without needing any cuttingā€¦ so yeah probably cut the pocket tissue from surrounding tissue.

The fact it ā€œdried upā€ basically in front of your eyes is also very interestingā€¦ definitely not any kind of encapsulation material we use would do that.

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I had a flexDF2 installed about a month ago.



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Do you happen to have a video of this procedure?

That shark must have been really tiny :shark:

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Unfortunately, I donā€™t. I got in Dallas, so you know who the installer is. :slight_smile:

The wrist area seems like a simple location compared to the 3 x-series implants I installed in my hands. It never really got sore and itā€™s healing nicely.

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Xmagic Installed
Bevel Down, Vs my Xsiid which was bevel up. Ill report back in a month to compare healing scars.

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Itā€™s totally possible to have identical scars. The primary advantage of bevel down is that inserting the needle past the back end of the bevel should not be difficult at all if you are tenting the skin properly. The scars would be identical in terms of healing if you manage to unflap any skin that might have gotten caught in the hollow with the bevel up methodā€¦ only the crescent would be flipped for bevel up vs bevel down.

Anyway itā€™s good to report! Looking forward to hearing about it!

Apex/Flexclass install

This was Matthew Jolly at evergreen body mod in puyallup wa he has done all seven of my implants and has done an excellent job on them all. These where my first flex installs and they where no where near as bad as I thought they would be.

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I noticed that your install was done perpendicular to the metacarpals.
This is 90ā° to the ā€œusualā€ P0 , P1, P2, P3, P4 positioning.

I donā€™t believe I have seen anybody else install that way with PCB flex, Although, the P1, P2, P3 doesnā€™t have too much curve going across themā€¦

I hope it works well for you, and doesnā€™t have too much flex at the solder join.
Please keep us up dated with how it performs.

Any reason you / Installer chose that orientation?

Congrats on your first Flex
:flex:
:pbjtime:

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