My girlfriend would like to have the implant in her forearm. Since the professional who has done mine is currently not available, we were thinking about using the guide for approaching professionals. I’ve glanced over the two attached documents and saw that there are instructions for the standard locations in the hand.
I’m wondering if the guide is transferable for having it in the forearm, or better yet, is there an (un)official one with instructions?
I feel like I would do a shit job explaining it
This is the guide for a procedure you have not performed before, could you please do that? Buuut we want it in a non-standard location for which I have no documented way on how to perform it.
Any community post on it would be appreciated as well, I can add it to a separate document maybe. I feel like the chance of me convincing someone to have it done are otherwise close to zero.
Which documents? I’m asking because I’m not sure how well circulated the revised DT x-series guide is.
The hand is a more complex install place for x-series due to veins and tendons. The arm is more complicated to live with. The professional installer guide isn’t stabbing for gumbies, it’s stabbing considerations for stabbing professionals. They should already know enough about anatomy and needlework to sort it out given the considerations outlined.
Before we get deep in the weeds with why having a first time installer get weird can be problematic, what’s up with the choice of the arm? You’ll note from searching on the forum they can be tricky locations. You’ll find you never realized things like backpack or purse straps slide across them. That can result in the implant getting snagged which isn’t a great feeling.
The ones I’m referring to are linked in the guide on how to approach a professional.
First of all, that should be the headline of the document , second, that’s a good point. I’m just assuming if someone who is doing piercings on a regular basis, might be more aware of the typical piercing locations and that this is the reason for the detailed guide with the images and all. But I think you’re more qualified to comment on that than I am of course.
The reason is actually similar to the one you mentioned in why the arm is not an ideal location. Mostly she is concerned about it being in her way when she does something with her hands, like putting gloves on, working, etc.
Her preferred place would be the underside of the forearm if that is even possible to do. It would at least not matter as much for purse straps or backpacks and makes it easy enough to scan with a phone.
Using it for authentication, opening doors, etc. would be a bit awkward, but that’s not that big of a deal for her.
Definitely doable and a good place for some things. I have 2 xG3 magnets on my left forearm, just aside from my watch bracelet.
I really like this spot to hold small screws and bits but it would make it awkward for door access.
Doing it on the had is much easier for door access, but can be an issue for manual stuff, i had 2 implants in R0 that kept migrating and i had to remove them, but i have found a spot that does force them to migrate, i now have one in R0 and one in L0 with no migration at all.
To be honest, this has not been much of a problem for my R4 xMagic. Maybe once in a blue moon shoving my hand in a tight server rack. My L1 xG3 was even better when I had it. Though, I will say my first implant, my NExT in my forearm (check the xrays below, just to the inner side of the ulna bone), has very seldom given me issues.
Both my NExT and xMagic have credentials to get into work (T55), and I switch which one I use depending which door I use. One door in particular is significantly easier to use with my NExT than my xMagic.
Very possible. It was my installer’s first install, my first install, and they claim it to be the easiest they’ve done on me out of my three. The position I used was very particular, specifically in a divot between bone, tendon, and muscle to avoid the strap-sliding issue @tac0s mentioned. If you would like more detail, I can take some pictures and share my experiences.
Ah, yeah. There is a new version. Not that anything is wrong with that guide. I’ll see about sorting out the new version.
It’s possible, i guess, if the gloves were tight enough… I can’t recall it being an issue for me–or hearing about it here though. Basically, with a glove, folks tend to be holding it open with their pulling motion. Straps, however, slide across the tissue with a downward force so a catch is guaranteed if an implant is in the path.
I have an x-series in my forearm’s underside. I have to watch my wrist rotation to avoid catching. It’s mostly out of the way from natural movement.
If i was getting a blinky, i would not have a first time installer for the arm because it’s easier to go too deep which can make it difficult to see an LED.
Lot’s of great experiences from folks above. Hopefully that helps make some decisions. If you have access to a 3d printer, you could print of the appropriate analog and try taping it in place for a day. If not, you could hit the help button on the site and we’ll see avout getting some shipped to you
That seems like a good place for them, out of the way but still easily reachable with the other hand.
I’ve recently had an xSIID installed in my left hand, pretty close to the surface and haven’t had an issue either, but she’s really sensitive about her hands.
The possibility of something slightly sticking out of it or a glove / tight clothes catching the implant are, for the lack of a better translation “yucky” for her
Definitely, we’ll certainly see what’s the most ideal solution for her.
That’s super nice, thank you very much! I have a 3D printer though ( ← Venn diagram of implant and 3D printing enthusiasts)
But that’s a good idea, I’ll print one and see if we can figure out what works best for her. I’m wondering though, if you were to tape it to your forearm, would you have caught the issue with the wrist rotation?
That’s a great question. Mostly because I don’t routinely do that. I think the best approach is to try the spot she’s interested in and wear it all day when she’ll be throwing on a backpack or whatever. Try and orchestrate a day where it will naturally be put on and off many times so that she’s not thinking about it. I think something like that certainly would have worked for me to call out the issue–but probably because my approach would be to do something so unreasonably exhausting my brain would be shut off. I used to do these long bike and hike link ups–20-30 miles of cycling interspersed with hikes. Lot’s of dismounts and change ups. Should you be crazy like me? Probably not.
But, an interesting thought just occurred to me: I always put on the left strap first. If I would have put it in my right arm, no issues because I’m holding the other strap open when I put it on. The implants in my left forearm were my first: a flexEM and Spark 1. I’ve learned some things since then.
We tried some locations for the implant and they weren’t ideal.
After approaching a piercer he could take her fear about it being an issue in her hand, including the part about it being yucky. We’ll see about how long the euphoria will last after day to day use and the patch being removed, but she’s happy with it for now!
I have a question though: the piercer is currently not in the DT Partner map. I asked and he was fine in exploring the option, especially if there is no bureaucracy and payment modalities involved (I don’t think there are?).
What’s the best way to approach this? Not sure about his English skills, I can translate any message between you guys if necessary. Are there any hurdles in getting him on there?
Well, there is some information we need for our records and the like so not like a government bureaucracy or anything. It’s best if they hit the help button on the site and mention they’re interested. It helps to have things centralized : )
, second, that’s a good point. I’m just assuming if someone who is doing piercings on a regular basis, might be more aware of the typical piercing locations and that this is the reason for the detailed guide with the images and all. But I think you’re more qualified to comment on that than I am of course.
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The implants in my left forearm were my first: a