Hey, what did he say by the way?
I think this would be easy and result in the least increase in size, but yeah would require sutures to hold in place.
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Idk what body modders are capable of doing but adding sutures inside the your hand feels like it’s approaching doctor or surgeon level especially if you consider that I’ve seen a lot that can’t even do basic stitches properly on a consistent basis idk if I’d trust them to do this unless I know for sure they’re really good. I’d rather it just rotates then potentially complicate healing or cause other issues
it always boils down to that in bodymodding… I would’t let someone with a needle, a scalpel or a cauter near my body if I wouldn’t trust him and if I wouldn’t know that he knows very well what he is doing. And you can completely transfer that to “real” doctors and surgeons as well, I guess.
Thing is, good bodymod-artists usually have a portfolio you can look at; doctors usually don’t 
Honestly, I would be ok with that, the smaller the better.
@Doubt6
That’s true, but I am still considering incorporating LEDs into some tattoo, so as I would need to do tattoo 1st, I can’t have any rotation… I had been thinking about this for so long now… Maybe I should give up honestly.
And 2nd thing is I would really like to keep it as small as possible to make it as less visible as possible and all of those other ideas increase the size pretty dramatically…
Btw if some could tell me how can I quote that would be amazing 
@Coma
I went there and learned they weren’t comfortable with doing sth like this. I was with a friend who was asking about his 1st tattoo, so at least I didn’t completely waste my time
and we went shopping, got sick shirt haha
Ah damn, feel sorry for you! Hope you’ll find someone whom you trust and who’s able to do that…
(by the way, to quote, just mark the text you want to quote, a little button will pop up^^)
That’s a nice idea (I plan putting some in a scarification^^) - and yes, I think the tat should be there first… no room for rotation, that’s true. But maybe the smaller one-blinky-thingies that Amal showed in his last Lab-Thread might be something for that as well? They are smaller and more rectangular, so they should stay in place I guess…
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overall I also feel the idea of sutures to secure the device from spinning is only adding another level of difficulty for the installer. i think the best approach at this point is to start exploring @Moonman0922’s shape concepts. I think the upper right corner is probably the best approach… the pentagon shape.
You’re probably right 
It would add the least amount of surface area.
Theoretically, if some installer could do the sutures like that, would making small puncture for it at the perimeter be dangerous?
Thanks ^^
Yeah, they are nice for sth like that, but I wanted them to light up when they actually do sth and my tattoo idea had perfectly 3 spots in a triangle… perfect for the flexnext.
Yeah you can but the difference is doctors go through years or learning and practice before they can start cutting people open while body modders tend to learn by practicing on people and sure they have portfolios but they’re only gonna show their best, not the botched stuff.
I’m just saying I’d have to know the modder really well personally before letting them do something that detailed and delicate
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Mh, considering how difficult it is by now to just do bodmods at all, most of them who “botch” stuff are no longer there or have quite the reputation…
And of course, portfolios show things they are kinda proud of - but if you deal with that stuff for quite a long time, you can see if they are really good at what they do or if they are still “new” to the field. The amount of different works is important as well, to see if someone does one or two mods a year or rather dozens. So if you know what to look for, you can to a certain amount “read” such portfolios.
Yes, this, always and foremost! But I’d say regardless of personal sympathy and a “gut feeling”, take a close look at his / her work
That being said, no matter how great an artists work is, I could never work with someone whom I dislike personally… so I guess it might be equally important 
Like a light diffuser?
HAHA, I’ve never heard that analogy before, but I like it, I would change it to “forcing a fat man through…”
Try out the tutorials
I would say it’s not the best idea to put extra holes into the material… but if you were going to try to do that, i’d put it at one of the points of the pentagon shape, furthest away from the edge of the device inside. That said, there are also other factors… sometimes there are imperfections in the polymer that are fully encapsulated and pose no issue, but that’s only because the cut edge of the implant is fully encapsulating them. You can’t see these imperfections with the naked eye though, and it might be possible that you run the needle through one of these and that creates a nice little channel into the inner device (it will eventually fail) or at the very least set up a nice hiding spot for bacteria to take up residency.
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But like you said you have to know what to look for. these implants intersect between those who are really into body mods and those that are just into tech or usability so not everyone will know what to look for.
Because of this I feel like the implants should be as simple and easy to install as possible so it doesn’t put off people from getting them or even stop them because of certain laws in countries.
I just got a notification for the advance tutorials this morning but I’ve been out all day so I haven’t had time to go through it yet
I am totally on your side there…
Still, its surgery to a certain degree, so it’s not a bad idea to get into the field of bodymods at least a little - even with the way the flexNExT-implants currently are, it’s quite risky to have them installed by someone who is “not so good” in his job, or, in worst case, not well informed about cross-contamination and such.
See, i’ve got absolutely no idea about all the tech stuff in this forum, I’m happy I’m quite good in at least one of those three points 
Just a thought, but why not make it a square? Round the corners off and it couldn’t turn
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It would make it bigger and harder to stick to the hand shape making it far more visible I suppose.
It wouldn’t be much of an issue on the arm though.
That’s why I suggested several holes, so the customer can choose the orientation:
Also, not in the form of 'handles", but integral to the rim - which would have to be slightly enlarged I suppose, to keep a safety margin between the edges of the holes and the edge of the bullseye: the worry would be that if the wire catches during removal, it would go through the “handle” and possibly detach a bit.
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That’s what I had in mind
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Well, I figure we get a professional involved here so Lassi Sidoro from scar.fi just put in his custom flexMT and we discussed rotation. He’s going to review this thread and hopefully comment.
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Hmm, a familiar name 
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