M1flex installation with Apex needle

Its partly to do with your blood sugar levels, when your body goes through trauma (not just talking about loosing a limb but a needle prick etc) you body uses the sugar as energy at higher rates than when sat idle or carrying out normal activity.

I’m type 2 diabetc, when I have a tattoo I have to eat throughout… if I don’t my blood sugar drops and I pass out or vomit. Haven’t had an issue with implants yet but have only had one at a time and I suppose I did feel qweezey afterward.

Trust me as a diabetic you blood sugar getting that low is not fun.

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Or, because although a great document, It may not answer your question, there are other S50 Documents around, I shall go hunting again,
Elmer
whist you get some sleep…
Buggs insomnia

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that gif is an accurate representation of how I feel, kids have been ill so even wanting to sleep i can’t… thanks though.

i think I get the jist of that doc and yeah I does kind of answer my question. I.e. as long as if I write to the thing I don’t set it to state 3 (neither key a or b can write) then i should be fine.

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Hope nothing serious

There is a really good table with all the gens listed and explanations, I had it in a wiki I was working on that I had hidden which is now actually hidden from me, :man_shrugging: along with all the references, Oh well… I’ll keep looking :eyes:

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Interesting. I may just be particularly tolerant of low blood sugar. I think the longest I have gone without eating anything (just water) was just over a month (stupid bet, but I won) and I was very surprised that other than feeling more worn out after say a 200m sprint to the bus stop I noticed no negative side effects. Having said that, having a snack before hand is easy enough so will do.

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TL;DR - Eating chills you the fuck out.

I believe, and trust me I’m no neurologist here… but I believe that eating engages the digestive system, which in turn activates the vagus nerve, which in turn helps keep your body in rest/digest mode instead of fight/flight mode… and when you are getting a tattoo or injection or whatever, if you are in fight/flight mode, there is a large chance that sustaining damage which activates pain sensors will tell your brain to make rapid changes in your physiology that would normally aid you during combat or flight… but because you’re sitting dead still in a chair, these changes are not good and cause vasovagal syncope… also called reflex syncope. I’ve talked about this before in other posts… https://forum.dangerousthings.com/search?q=syncope

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That’s actually pretty cool… yeah sprinting to the bus when you’re probably all out of glycogen stores in your muscles (and probably glucose in your blood), you’re probably burning ketones which is much more difficult to do and not well suited for sudden spikes of your energy requirements.

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I’ll definitely be getting a gen1a.
There’s no chance :no_good_man: I’m taking the risk of having a bricked implant in my hand.

Snack? Eat what makes you happy that morning. You will be on your way to becoming a cyborg, you might not even need to eat human food soon after. :rofl:

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I am wondering about this also. After thinking, I would be willing to self install this and the APEX flex on the knifes edge. I spoke to my local parlors, and only one guy knew of a person who does scapel work, and he is full up because of all the delays for a while.

My wife would help, so I wouldn’t be on my own at least. We also have experience working in sterile procedures.

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Fuuuuuck. I was considering a M1Flex just for the better antenna over the X but dat gen2 has made my decision for me I think

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That’s fair… but in actuality I need to do a new test on this to confirm. The problem is that these chips are underground grey market “Chinese specials” and their source and operation are both unconformable… so with this latest batch of chips I’ll be making flexM1s with I will test this again to confirm.

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Won’t lie. I am stoked. I have the cyborg bundle in my cart, just waiting to see if I need to add anything before I hit checkout.

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Initial flexM1 gen2 units are promising. The length is slightly longer to accommodate a rough antenna connection process which is hard to dial down in a reliable way… 38mm long… but the width is the same… 7mm at the bottom and 8mm at the top… good for needle pocketing.

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dam it! i need to save for my proxmark not more chips haha, looks great!

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Is this what I have been waiting for all week? I mean this in a good way.

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I have a couple questions regarding the flexibility (or rather, the durability) of the FlexM1 and similar format implants: if you implant it in a slightly fleshy spot - as opposed to along a bone - it’ll bend when you press down on it. That means the copper wire in the coil will bend. My questions are these:

  • If the fleshy bit is fleshy enough, and you press hard enough, does the copper wire deform permanently? Copper isn’t very springy, so I expect it to deform plastically each time the device is subjected to bending.

  • Have you done a metal fatigue test? I.e. how many times can you bend it until the wire breaks, and how does the amount of bending reduce the number of cycles?

  • Have you noticed delamination or shearing between the top or bottom of the flexible silicone and the embedded inflexible copper in the middle, as the device is flexed repeatedly?

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A in depth post about testing like the one for the x form factor implants would be very nice tbh. I am sure it is on your long list @amal.

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This doesn’t answer your questions about the implants outside the body, but it could be interesting.

Just a heads up it’s not silicon or silicone.

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I have some failures of some flex where the chip works but the coating isn’t implant quality so I can do some in vitro testing.

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