Newbie wanting to copy beloved pets microchip and install into self

Hello all.
i’d love to copy my dog’s microchip, write that info onto a blank chip like DT’s xEM RFID Chip which I’d have implanted in me.
(Yes I understand that the animal microchip contains a serial number rather than actual records).

That’s one for the heart, then for my nerd side I’d get something utilitarian like the xMagic Chip Implant to give the potential to interact with a range of rfid (low and high frequency card readers for instance).

I’d ideally want a single tool to handle both of these tasks. Is this something that a flipper zero could handle or would a proxmark be required?

Happy to hear alternative solutions to achieve these effects.

Not sure about the flipper… it’s capable but not sure anyone has made the software to do it.

The proxmark3 can do it for sure though. Read fdx-b from the animal chip and program t5577 as fdx-b

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can confirm, the flipper can read fdx-b pet chips and write that data to a T5577

worth noting the flipper’s handling of implants and coupling with their form factor is exceptional in my experience.

something also worth noting is that while FDX-B is a global standard, there are many north american proprietary pet chips available that aren’t fdx-b.

so my suggestion would be call the vet, ask them for the information regarding your pets chip; brand; ID etc and we can make sure it’s suitable for cloning onto your t5577.

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Is it too late to retrieve you pets microchip?

It COULD be sterilised and implanted.

It is not reccommended, but it can be done and has been done before.

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It was @Backpackingvet and his dog Archer’s chip that he cleaned and installed.

If it’s something you would lilke to do and have access to the chip, DM me and I’ll give you some suggestions/ advice on how to go about it.

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Thank for thinking out of the box. The dog is very alive and well :grin:

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Oh thank fuck

YAY

Anyway, something to consider for far far far into the future.

Hey have you thought about gettin an xEM and writing your dog’s microchip info to it :rofl:

You could just get an xMagic and write your cyborp puppys chip UID to the LF side ( same as the xEM ), and on the HF side, put cyborg Pups vet records or whatever.

And get another xMagic to “get your NERD on…”

FYI
you could also register yourself (and pup ) on any number of Pet Databases, a few people here have done so, including @Equipter above

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I have done this with a Flipper and an xMagic. Freaked my vet out!
You might want to check first that your pet’s chip is an fdx-b though, because some regions use other protocols.
You could buy a pet tag reader first if you don’t want to splash out right away for a Flipper but the Flipper is so much fun that it would be one of my first purchases for anyone getting interested in RFID.

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Thanks folks.
I’m in Australia, looks like the chipping service uses FDX-B here also.

I’ve been considering a flipper zero for a while and find always wanted to be a cyborg & wanted to do something cute with the dog (who now has enough medical implants in him now that his current nickname is cyberdog) but I’m at such a beginners level of knowledge that I couldn’t determine if these would work together as I was hoping.

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I should get myself a Flipper…

There’s a thread for fluffy cyborg pictures:

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if youre wanting to get a flipper for just this then there is a better option to achieve this; if youre wanting to get a flipper anyway then full steam ahead

for just this and other RFID stuff;
a proxmark3 easy and a halo pet chip reader from aliexpress would be at the very least 1/2 the cost of a flipper.

you’d use the petchip scanner to get the ID and use the proxmark to encode that ID into an implant

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If you’re as new as I was I would start with an HF chip that can be easily managed with your phone - xNT, flexNT, or xSIID.

Next level up is the LF with a Flipper - xEM etc

A NExT combines both HF and LF in one chip!

The xMagic does too and it’s a little more complete but you’d need to get into the Proxmark3 to take full advantage of it (edit: apparently this is incorrect. See Equipter’s reply) and the learning curve is much steeper unless you know your way around the CLI.

The rest of the chips tend to use protocols for more specific uses.

This is oversimplified and more experienced people on this forum might take issue with the details - it’s just to give you a basic overview.

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why? the flipper is capable of doing everything a proxmark can in terms of gen1a magics bar writing specific blocks but that’s a function no one ever really does and not something i would discount the flipper for; and if its needed you can just edit the file and write it back

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It is cheaper but the OP was saying they are very new to this stuff and going straight to Proxmark3 is very daunting if you have no coding experience.
Mine sat in a drawer for six months because I had absolutely no idea how to get it to work. AOX saved me by helping me through the initial configuration. Without that, it would still be in the drawer! and even now I only know how to use it to do a few basic things.
Flipper was waaaay easier and as a result I’ve used it a lot more.

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oh for sure its got a steeper learning curve but that’s what we’re for, certainly if youre not up to the task of wrangling a complicated CLI then id go for the flipper.

if this is the only task youre wanting to achieve and would rather spend 100$ less its an option though

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I’ve been considering the flipper for a while now as a tech multitool/entry point into tech hobbies. This project is something to help tip the balance into committing to it.

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I just learnt something new! That’s good news. On the rare occasions I’ve used the 1k gen1a side I’ve always used the Proxmark3, thinking that the Flipper was not up to the task.

As kind as that is, I think that some of you don’t realise quite how much further down the road you are compared to a non-coding beginner. Sometimes it’s better to put a phone or a Flipper in our hands until we’ve caught up a bit.
(Of course, I have no idea if the OP is starting from scratch like I was. A Proxmark3 maybe not be an obstacle).

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The flipper is also not quite as capable when it comes to cracking mifare keys

Fortunately it’s also convenient for sniffing them most of the time

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it has just as in just received a huge update to flipper nested with massive optimisations. also including backdoor keys for FM11RF08S.

this puts it on par with the proxmark’s key cracking ability, there is no uncrackable mifare classic it cant handle (static-hard nested incl)

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Can it do it on-device now? Last I played with it you had to export the files and use your computer to crack them anyways

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