Password protection on fresh implants

[Jake.lovell98]

Hey all,
Just had my first installs done, XSIID with blue led and a NeXt. Have come along the topic of password protection. Are my implants already write protected with a password? Do I need to set one before doing anything? I have seen there is a dangerous things app for protecting the xnt but the next i have read is done in the DT factory?

Can someone please explain what I need to do and why?

Thank you so much,

Jake

[Pilgrimsmaster]

[Pilgrimsmaster]

Welcom Buddy, I hope the installs went well!
Positions L0 and R0?

Naming convention for implant locations in the hand

During a discussion on another thread in this forum, it became clear that a naming convention of some sort should be made for the implant locations in the hand: I simply modeled the way dentists talk about teeth in the mouth, and concluded the following should suffice… First, a prefix of L or R for Left or Right. Next, a number to specify the position. [hand-positions] 0 - The triangle tissue between the first metacarpal bones of the thumb and index finger 1 - Between first metacarpals of…

The NExT is also done at the factory so no need to do anything.
The xSIID I don’t have, but the same deal, just different password

but just let me find you a link or two so you can read for yourself, wait one…

Just ordered an xSIID+LED NFC chip, how should I properly set it up?

So this is my second implant, first one I got was the xNT and to set it up and secure it I used the dangerous NFC app to password protect the lock bytes. Would this chip follow the same procedure? I also saw this thread XSIID - "Tag is not NDEF-compliant" I assume I’ll have to follow the same procedure to make it recognizable? Anyway thanks for reading and have a good day Also thanks Amal you never disappoint <3 can’t wait for it to arrive!

THIS ONE says it all and straight from Amal from 5 days ago.

@amal

The current batch of NExT does have a password set, but we decided to leave the xSIID password set to factory default FF FF FF FF. We did set AUTH0 to enable protections, just to ensure there was an extra step at least to alter those bytes… but it was a gamble… so many badly written NFC apps will gladly issue the PWDAUTH command with factory default just as a check mechanism, and in doing so, may possibly impact the AUTHLIM counter (if it’s enabled) which is a terrible disservice as an app to take a potentially destructive action without even informing the user… but then once PWDAUTH is issued, it can freely overwrite config bytes by accident… if it’s badly written… so you see it’s a bit of a risk for our users to not set a password on the xSIID…

I think though that once we have our own app (@hoker), we will program the next batch to have a non-factory but defacto default password… maybe we will make all DT product passwords DNGR from the factory… dunno yet.

Pretty much you are good to go!!!
Enjoy

Any questions come on back

[Jake.lovell98]

Thanks pilgrim master,
I got them installed at L0 (next) and L4 (xsiid)
So in order to protect my XSIID I can put password on it with tag writing app and to write to the Next Nt side I need the password tgats set in the DT factory?

[Compgeek]

For the NExT, you don’t need the password for normal everyday writing (and i believe its the same with xSIID, but dont have one)

The password is set to protect only writing config settings (like the password itself and what it protects, pretty meta!) not the user data.

Basically, it prevents you from putting it in read only mode without the password, or changing it without the password. But if others know it, they could write a link to pornhub @anon3825968 , set it to need password to rewrite it, then change the password.

[Jake.lovell98]

Thanks compgeek, that makes alot more sense . So in theory I could still put a password on my xsiid to stop others writing user data to it?

[Compgeek]

Yeah absolutely! It already has the default password, so you’d change that, then set the range of ‘pages’ it protects to include not just config changes, but also the user data pages.

Just a warning that a lot of NFC apps don’t understand the NTAG I2C thats in the SIID properly yet, so I’d use NFC Shell (carefully! Since it can cause you trouble) to send raw commands to do this.

Hell, if you wanted to, you can even set it so reading some areas requires a password I believe, but again, haven’t played with this.

As for the commands, I’ll tag @Devilclarke, but there are also others here who can help!

[Pilgrimsmaster]

I would put the other half of the mighty duo @NiamhAstra in there also.

NFC Shell - Desktop Application

So I wanted to send raw commands to my implants with my ACR122 and did not see anything available that could do it so I whipped this application up and thought it might be useful to others. Currently it is a fairly simple CLI application and it is only designed to work with the ACR122. It has only been tested on the windows laptop I was using when I wrote it… It also sends raw commands to the chip so basically… USE AT YOUR OWN RISK I take no responsibility for any damage you do to your implan…

[Compgeek]

I was going to tag other people, but figured then it’s a slippery slope where i tag you, Satur9, fraggersparks, maybe Rosco, and basically summon all the regulars! But yeah, @NiamhAstra I’m sure would be able to help too!

We’ve already been summoned once today by @ODaily

[Jake.lovell98]

thank you guys so much. I’ll take a look into this once swelling is down. On a side note the slight pain will go away after a couple days right? Also what is chance of it sliding out the hole? And any technique to sleeping without moving implants?

Cheers,
Jake

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Jake.lovell98

any technique to sleeping without moving implants?

Don’t Sleep…

I’ll let @Compgeek answer you seriously, I see him typing down there

[Compgeek]

@Jake.lovell98

On a side note the slight pain will go away after a couple days right?

Yep, its not the implant that hurts, its the body’s healing process. You have a stab wound, they tend to tingle a bit. Before too long you won’t even know its there.

As long as you don’t knock it, it probably won’t migrate that far back towards the hole. As for coming out, your wound is probably already smaller than it was, maybe smaller than the implant. Keep a band aid on for the night if you’re nervous, but I don’t think its accidentally coming out.

[Satur9]

@Compgeek

summon all the regulars!