Pistol safe refit project

Step 1:actuate lock :white_check_mark:
Step 2: limit power usage with a timer relay
Step 3: clean up and cable manage
Step 4: design and print a new faceplate
Step 5: address a few attack vectors

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Looking good so far. I like it. (And frankly a simpler solution than trying to program a mcu)

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More like Simpler than teaching me how to program one, I’ve bugged @enginerd more then I care to admit…Relays are stupid… that’s all I have to say

I’m self aware enough to know that programming a microcontroller is skipping a lot of levels for me

3D printed and installed some standoffs so things aren’t flopping around anymore… that’s good
But it’s getting messier now that I have the timer board in, start button, and various power connections

:open_mouth:

I can see how they can be intimidating.
But when you understand how they work, you can make them work for you.
Especially if you want to use an xAC to switch “Chunky things” on/off

To super simplify an example

A standard 5 pin automotive relay

Firstly, YES the numbering is stupid, but just take the time to learn them, it will make using them easier.
its only 5 numbers…and a letter

Let’s break the relay into 3 parts.

TURN ON RELAY pins 85 and 86

Think of the 2 pins 85-86 going across the relay as the switch to turn the RELAY ON
if you put power to them.
Positive on one side, Negative on the other.
(best practice: 86 switched power, 85 ground)
86 is where you would put whatever switch you want to use between the power supply and the pin.

[These pins are a “seperate circuit” from the other 3 pins]

INPUT pin 30

AKA
Common
Super simple
Whatever you put on to pin 30 will go out to whatever you are trying to switch on 87 OR 87a this could be negative, but “normally” positive

OUTPUTs pin 87 and 87a

Pin 87a
AKA
Normally closed (closed circuit)
AKA
On (when no power is applied to pin 86)

Pin 87
AKA
Normally open (open circuit)
AKA
Off (when power is applied to pin 86)


85 - switched power
86 - ground

30 - Common
87a - Normally Closed
87 - Normally Open


If you look at an xAC it is really just a relay.
Red and Black (86 & 85)

White wire is the common (30)
Green is Normally Closed (87a)
Yellow is Normally Open (87)


Apologies, I wanted to make this more concise, butI hope this makes sense, typed whilst walking.

Here is a really good resource for a variety of setups

https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relaydiagrams.html

Relays are counterintuitive… that’s all I meant

Step 1:actuate lock :white_check_mark:
Step 2: limit power usage with a timer relay :white_check_mark:
Step 3: clean up and cable manage :white_check_mark:
Step 4: design and print a new faceplate
Step 5: address a few attack vectors

I think most of the wiring is done now (maybe now
I can leave you alone @enginerd)
Still waiting for power panel socket to come in, that will go in the back, already have the lead wired and tested

Also need to get a more appropriate rates fuse, just used what I had on hand as a place holder… I just need to go to the store for it… I hate buying small things like that, because now everyone regardless of Amazon will want to sell me a 100x pack for 7.99

I just need 1 or 2, chill lol

But overall I think I’m getting there


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Are you suggesting that I don’t enjoy it for some odd reason?

I mean, fail videos are an entertainment thing I suppose… so I guess I can follow that

That’s not what I meant, I enjoy helping people succeed.

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Step 1:actuate lock :white_check_mark:
Step 2: limit power usage with a timer relay :white_check_mark:
Step 3: clean up and cable manage :white_check_mark:
Step 4: design and print a new faceplate :white_check_mark:





Step 5: address a few attack vectors :white_check_mark:

Bonus step: sticker swag :white_check_mark:

Just need to drill a small hole for the female dc jack connector in back, and attach it to the wire coming out of the door… and it’s 99% done (nothing is ever fully done)

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Pretty much done with the official project

I think I’m might tinker a bit further with some creature comforts…

Like spring loading the door, possibly something that holds a pistol in a more convenient angle…

I did think about something Extra where the handle dips out when open lol

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looks like a viable entrant for the social media competition

https://forum.dangerousthings.com/t/social-media-giveaway/15183/2

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You overestimate my following lol

You have to be in it to win it PLUS there is also a random draw winner :tickets:

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btw @Pilgrimsmaster,

I set up the pistol safe XAC to use the same ADD and REMOVE tags as the big gun safe

I then scanned those into my flipper :grin: and secured the physical tags where even I would have a hard time gaining access

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It looks like my Flipper SHOULD be delivered at the end of June, so , from one of the first to order to one of the last to receive, oh well, still some functionality I am waiting to happen.

I’ll just continue to quietly wait in the corner, flippering vicariously though you guys

That is a clean install. Especially with the dc jack in the back. Excellent job frood!

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Door is now spring loaded

Really rough hack job, may not last, but it works for now

Took a Glock 17 magazine spring and cut it all
Up and bent it all up to make a spring that forces the door open

Haha. that’s brilliant.
When you mentioned spring loading the door, my first thought was something more like this

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Yea I was thinking something that pushes the door originally, but I didn’t want the door to bounce back closed

So the spring leg keeps constant open pressure on it