Resonant Repeater Stickers

Sorry, I’m having a hard time imagining what you’re saying. I understand the goals, but the execution is a bit fuzzy. Could you draw me a pretty picture, perhaps?

Also keep in mind that for the repeater to work, it needs to have it’s own carefully tuned LC tank circuit, which means coil (or two) and capacitor. That’s why I said that bit at the beginning about on-board capacitors, so that we don’t have to populate any components.

I think basically it’s like the card design where you have one coil to interface with the module and one coil to interface with the reader… But in this case the coil that interfaces with the module is probably a cylinder so that x-series can communicate better with readers

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the left one with the cylindrical coil is what i envisioned, only the x-series would not pass through the center (hard to fit a hand though there) but be presented parallel to it.

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Yeah, that could be possible too.

I didn’t draw the coating in the left-hand side doodle, so I would just show what I have in mind for the coils’ layout, but it would obviously require a slot left or right of the center coil to insert the glassie - possible one on the other side also, if the center hole through the coating inside the center coil was created by leaving a form cylinder through the coil during curing.

Anyway, you get the idea.

EDIT: in case it wasn’t clear, the right-hand side doodle is the cross-section, with the coating :slight_smile:

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PCB fabrication doesn’t really come in 3D shapes like that. You’re thinking from a machinists perspective, but a fab house is just laying down flat sheets in a particular order. If we wanted a coil like that we would need to find a way to make a custom jobbie, and that’s difficult and expensive.

We would be much better off taking the chips used in the x-series and making flexes for them, because we know that works. The problem is in getting chips to fit in glass, not the other way around. We can always make them flexes. Plus, then they could be installed with the 5mm needle, which your proposal could not.

I wounder if you could do something with diagonal tracks via through so you end up with what would look like stiching.

The outer coil (pickup coil) could be PCB and the cylindrical coil coil be an inductor or something that connects to the PCB… my thought though was that the two coils would be completely separated by a ribbon cable to be honest… the cylindrical coil being “off to the side” for implant use.

Do you mean inside the body or outside?

Just implant the x series and the cylindrical coil, and have the ribbon cable and the pcb coil dangling out through the skin. That would make positioning on a reader easier. :rofl:

My reading was that both would be inside the body.

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I’ve introduced so much ambiguity by not making two threads for this. I thought we could handle it

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Did you want to try again?
Call this a Thoughts thread and make a new one called production?
or something else?

let me know if I can help :+1:

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I revel in the chaos

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There are two projects here… The single coil resonator, which we can call a repeater if you like… and then the other project is a patch antenna with two coils connected together. The pickup coil to interface with the reader would be large and fairly standard shape, and the specialized coil which, if we want to design for x-series, would probably be a cylindrical coil. These two coils would be connected in some way either with simple traces or with a ribbon cable or some sort of coaxial cable as some patch antennas are. We can call this a patch antenna project.

After some DMs from people who wanted to specifically see this project get some love, I have created this… thoughts? Is this an acceptable way to push forward research and manage donations for specific research projects?

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It’s a great way to manage that yeah. Having it all done on the DT site is always a nice thing.

I threw a bit of money towards the project. I’d love to see it come to fruition!

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How cool! Seems like a cool project and I’ll likely throw my wallet towards it lol. I’m personally much more of a fan of the crowdfunding model, but I think its good you’re trying different things!
What is the possibility of setting up a charitable organization for the furthering of cybernetic implant research. I have no experience on the laws surrounding those, but I really want to make my employer match a donation to you lmao!

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This is a great way to both gauge interest and get research funding toward a particular idea. I would keep only a few of them running at a time, or have a minimum level at which you will start/continue work on a project (explicitly stated). That way people know that once you get $100 you will spend half a day working on it (or whatever)…

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It’s kinda a pain actually haha but I like the idea :slight_smile:

Good ideas and yes we are just trying this out starting with this one project…but things to consider for the future…

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