Safety Advisory - xG3 v1

Just guessing, but the issue stems from the axial pull “snapping” the magnet into the glass tube end, correct?
Could you cushion it somehow?
Maybe an expanding foam that could be activated after encapsulation?

Basically if you could fix it, then hell yeah.

But the ethics of putting a known defect out there… :nauseated_face:

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Is there a way to bring it back to satisfy that demand but also make it safe in the process?

What if the glass capsule was longer? This way the field lines wouldn’t line up with the weak spot on the glass.

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Put a spring on either end in the empty space and turn it into a generator :grin:

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i think the issue is that there is an excess amount of already created xg3v1 and the question is to re-release but with a warning.

I am sure there are ideas of a V3 or even other magnet solutions in the works.

I believe we’re missing critical information to give an opinion on the subject. We’ve been told how many have failed but not how many have been installed. The number of fails is meaningless, it’s the failure rate that matters. 0.1% is different from 5% :man_shrugging:
I’m guessing this is not data DT wants to share which is fine but I’m not sure the vote is relevant.

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I like @Hamspiced’s idea of selling it without the injector. I would love to buy one to play with and show friends what my implanted magnets look like. I’ve kept the injectors from my self installs to show curious friends who are interested and it would be cool to demonstrate the install process with an actual implant that I have.

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With the results of the survey, @amal have you determined if you you continuing to not list the v1 as an option for the foreseeable future?

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For now we won’t list the xG3 v1, however after collating more information from some of those that had breakage, I feel more testing is in order. In short, it seems a number of people that had things break had one or both of the following circumstances;

  • the xG3 v1 installed in a less than fully accommodating or less than ideal location within the finger tip
  • incurred physical blunt force to the area of the implant

We’ll see as I get more time to test.

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I’ve had my xG3 v1 for years with no issues and am involved at extreme sports from time to time.

Furthermore; I’d never part with it, partly because it’s functional and in part because the caps can be removed, magnet replaced with a receptacle for VX; smuggled across borders and used for business related to counter-espionage. Which; contrary to the interests of most people, is non-trivial. A single secret disseminated to a nefarious actor can destroy an entire company

Wat?

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I believe the xG3 v1 has caps and; perhaps with a little effort the magnet can be removed at which something else can be placed at the injectable module.

I’ll take two of whatever the alphabet soup’s liquor cabinet is stocked with…

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No, it’s a sealed glass capsule. The “cap” is a description of a breakage problem.

I doubt it, especially with DT quality.

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Its literally just a glass tube with a Magnet glued into place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i43T2757T1U

If you were able to remove the magnet (its not possible, theyre glued it) what would you do then? you would have a glass tube then, which is hard to seal then.

And if thats really ur plan i would suggest to just start off with glass tubes that have no magnet in them.

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Could we not heat the implant to melt the glue and use some instrument or; perhaps another magnet to coerce the magnet out? Your suggestion makes sense. Assuming we can get these tubes with no magnet from some distributor (maybe in the future from @amal so we don’t need to venture elsewhere from distrubutors like Steve Haworth where we’d need to spend quite a bit for a kind of implantable case (466-733CAD)

Koskenkorva. The caps have indeed come off multiple xG3 and, if they are glued in place this implies it can be heated to melt the glue. Glass can certainly be heated, with a melting point above that of the glue. Just because it will be a challenge should not imply that it cannot be done. Better sourcing this stuff from @amal instead of ordering a capsule fromhttps://store.stevehaworth.com/collections/capsules/products/capsule

Ah, I think you have misinterpreted how these caps are affixed. The end caps are not secured in place with an adhesive. They are laser welded in place. which is what was concerning about the V1. if it was a matter of just applying more adhesive then the issue wouldnt be as prevalent.

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honestly if you want to play around, you can just get borosilicate glass

The way to seal these is by flame, but if you want it to be implant safe, a hydrogen + oxygen flame is used for this because hydrocarbon based flames infuse the glass with impurities. there are “browns gas” generators used for this which basically create and store small amounts of gas on demand for this purpose, and have a small jet nozzle you use to direct the basically invisible flame at the glass.

I purchased one of these to play around with, but since we don’t use flame sealing and I’m basically afraid of it exploding in my face, I’ve never powered it up.

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Here you see me using a co2 laser to melt the glass, flame sealing is cheaper though^

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Lasers do not work on borosilicate glass.

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Why?

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