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@NoUsersLefft

Can someone explain to me the difference between Magic 1k and Magic Ntag

I can try…
Mifare CLASSIC vs. Mifare NTAG

@NoUsersLefft

Magic 1k

Keeping it bare basics for you
The Mifare CLASSIC Magic 1k Is an early HF technology, commonly used in many older security systems, but still readily available in alot of “Chinese” products.
The S50 chip was cracked and allows us to write our own 4byte NUID. This is the Chip we use in our implants ( xM1 , FlexM1 gen1a and gen 2, FlexMT…)and with software / apps we can read and write to them.
The fix that followed included a 7byte UID which means if a newer system requires the full 7Bytes we are S.O.L

The use of the Term Mifare is another story mostly unrelated to your question.
A Much more comprehensive explanation can be found in Amals Info Post

"magic" Mifare chips

The Mifare “classic” S50 1k chip? For many years the Mifare MF1ICS50 1k chip was used for all kinds of applications as a “secure chip” for everything from access control to stored value cards, and used for making localized payments within closed systems like public transit and laundry services. However, it uses a security mechanism called “crypto1” which is a simple, proprietary encryption mechanism that hardly has anything to do with modern cryptography. It has been broken for many years now, b…

If you need further clarification just ask and I can try to expand further

@NoUsersLefft

Magic Ntag

Rather than the Mifare Classic that we can use on Mifare Classic systems and change the NUID, The Magic Ntag card can emulate a few different types of cards ( BUT NOT Mifare CLASSIC )
It can obviously emulate:

• MIFARE NTAG 213, 215 (215 is used for Amiibo), 216 ( 216 is the same as in the NExT etc )
  These are 100% emulated,
  These are limited emulated ( counter and tearing emulation are not 1:1 with original chipsets.)
  ALSO
• Mifare NTAG®
  210
  212
  I2C 1K
  I2C 2K ( I2C 2K is the same as in thexSIID )
  I2C 1K Plus
  12C 2K Plus

And the MIFARE Ultralight which is often confused with the MIFARE Classic

• MIFARE Ultralight
  EV1 48k
  EV1 128k

So the MIFARE Magic NTAG is capable of emulating a lot more products than the CLASSIC so it is a potentially a great option for a lot of situations.

Although the NTAG MIFARE Ultralight EV1 emulation is IN THEORY 100% compatible with all MIFARE readers, writers and software, I am not 100% sure this will include the MIFARE Classic readers, writers and software; Personally I think it will come down to the specific reader, But I stand to be corrected on that one ( and anything else I have mentioned above for that matter )
Anyway
If / when I get the FlexMN, That is something I will test, unless somebody already has.
If you want, you can grab a test card from KSEC

MAGIC NTAG21X® / NTAG® I2C / MIFARE ULTRALIGHT® EV1 COMPATIBLE TAG - RFID...

I hope that goes some way to clarifying for you, sorry it was longer than I planned.

But again if you need more explanation, just ask