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@Eriequiet The anti🚫-derailment🚃 & thread🧵 hijackingšŸ”« thread🧵 ⁉ - #4209 by amal

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Thanks @Locutus

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I usually have three or four computers running around the house. All with different uses. I recently lost (broke) the use of two of the old junkers and I need at least one more.

Problem is, I refuse, utterly refuse, to go to windows 8 / 8.1 / 10. I’m still running 7 on everything. It’s the cobbled together mobile style interface that I can’t tolerate.

I think it might be time to seriously explore linux. I thought I’d solicit some opinions as to which one of the many many options. I’m looking for something that has a traditional style desktop interface, and which will play well with some older hardware as I tend to scrounge and re-use some older systems.

All the reading I’ve done so far says to go Linux > Mint > Cinnamon. I’ve downloaded an .ISO and intend to play with it as soon as I can find a donor PC to install it on.

Thoughts? Opinions? Sarcastic wise cracks?

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Linux mint is decent :+1: it’s a lot of people’s ā€œgateway distroā€. Easy install, straightforward desktop environment, but without too much hand holding. Pretty much all software can easily be found either as a .deb or a PPA.

It was my go-to distro a few years ago.

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I mean, like, Ubuntu?

Kali is good too but not necessarily as an everyday driver.

I run Linux Mint / Cinnamon everywhere. It’s Ubuntu with a Windows7-ish interface - which I happen to enjoy - without the Ubuntu idiosyncracies. I’ve never had any problem with it, save for a botched apt upgrade a few years back.

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I would go a step further and say that Kali is useless as an everyday driver :sweat_smile:

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Cool. Thanks all.

Now I just gotta find a few more ol’ junkers to sacrifice / revive.

Can I just say how surprised I am about how many people seem to get implants on a whim, without knowing their capabilities or understanding their limitations/requirements or doing any research at all?

Now I’m not knocking them, new budding biohackers are good.

A factor is maybe also the fact that some (like specifically the NeXT) slot neatly in the disposable-income impulse buy price category.

At the risk of sounding like I’m tooting my own horn, I really can’t afford to do that. I research everything about a thing that I want to the point that I even know how to use it even before I ever order it. I am just surprised (and maybe a little taken aback) that this isn’t a more common approach. I have had to save up for this for more then a year and I am still not implanted with anything (ruh roh now they know I’m an impostor, I’m getting kicked out :yum:). Hopefully that will change soon

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Linux Mint a solid choice. It’s moderately light weight and fast with all the niceties of a fully fledged desktop OS. And as @darthdomo said, Its a lot of people’s ā€œgateway distroā€. It was mine. If you get around to wanting more out of your systems or perhaps less overhead(really only noticed on very old or low performing hardware) then there are extremely light weight distros out there for exactly that. You can even run debian on a 486 if that is what you want to do :smiley:

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I’ve also ran Debian on my old iMac G3 with a 32-bit PowerPC cpu :slight_smile: It’s crazy how well stuff can run on Linux on low-end machines.

Given that this is the derailment thread, I recently installed OpenBSD on a Sun Ultra 5 workstation with an UltraSPARC IIi SPARC64 CPU at 400MHz, upgraded to 256MB of RAM. Worked just fine, although installing XFCE took like 40 minutes.

Even current linux is bloated when compared to SunOS 4.1.4 or Solaris 7, though. Early-late 90s UNIX was impressive to run, so little overhead.

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I’ve heard good things about PopOS!
Haven’t tested it out myself yet though

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For newer machines PopOS! is fantastic, not sure if I’d recommend it for anything a bit old, though. GNOME shell/GNOME 3 (not sure of the name these days) is still a bit rough in places on lower spec hardware.

For any laptop with hybrid graphics, PopOS! is a must, though. It’s the only distro out there with decent Optimus support.

I’d also recommend it for anyone wanting to do no-fuss linux gaming.

Most of my dealings with different distros were pretty painless.
I’ve dealt with a 2000-era machine that originally ran Win 95 and it was an absolute nightmare getting anything but that to run on it (I managed to install XP but it wasn’t very pleasant). When it was purchased it was really decked out costing an equivalent of 5k USD in todays money. The difficulties were probably due to a really strange motherboard with funky firmware. I know that I burned at least 30 discs with different distros trying to get anything to work, and it just wouldn’t. Most would shit themselves during installation. I got Puppy Linux to work but then it just crapped itsself and never recovered.

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The disc burning is a real annoyance. On my oldest Sun machine (a SparcStation 5), it’s only SCSI, and too new to use something like a SCSI2SD adapter.

In the 2 weeks or so I’ve had this particular machine, I’ve burned over 20 CDs.

I was really glad when I get networking working, transferring stuff over FTP is much more convenient. Still no other options for installing operating systems, though.

I started out with the original Slackware distro, that came in a gloriously humongous stack of diskettes. I installed that on a brand-spanking new Pentium 90. It wasn’t exactly what I’d call painless :slight_smile:

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Do you ever sleep? :stuck_out_tongue:
Well I am a much younger man than you so I haven’t had to deal with that :slight_smile:
The only time I messed with diskettes was installing some old Indiana Jones videogame on an old family computer

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You’d be hard-pressed to find a diskette drive these days - let alone diskettes to go with it.

That’s one technology I don’t miss. And CDs. Thank God for the gift of USB fobs.

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I’ve got a few right here :slight_smile: USB floppy drives are readily available, and still useful for working with older machines.

I’ve got a lot of machines that use 5.25" floppies as well. Those are a bit trickier to work with in the modern day.

I don’t think thats quite true… if nothing else, some quite critical infrastructure still relies on really old technology
I can jump on Amazon and get a USB floppy drive and 10x 3.5" floppies for about 50€ :slight_smile:
Maybe the older formats are harder to come by though

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