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No. Do you? Asking a question, providing no data or references is -nothing- but a -manipulative- debate tactic.

Yes. There is a small AI driven motor sport league. Will it attract people, likely not, in the same way watching humans drive in games is less entertaining, a computer driving in the real world will likely lack something, most likely human risk. https://roborace.com/

Can you? Any data on this? Inattention blindness is a thing there are plenty of studies that show that (this I found interesting)

Again any data to back this up? Or at least some claim to expertise?

Well computers can definitely beat you there :sweat_smile:

More grand statements and still no facts to support anything you have said. What even is creativity? What makes you think a computer is incapable of it?

If you think ideas come from ā€œthin airā€ it’s you that is underestimating the human brain.

If I seem passive aggressive or snarky I apologize. It’s just very hard to have a reasonable discussion about a topic when someone simply dismisses an entire field of research with nothing more than there personal feelings, insecurities and ā€œwisdomā€ to back it up… and I couldn’t find a particular polite way of articulating that.

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Large aircraft automation and the complacency of the pilots/training follows only by mechanical failure as the leading cause of fatal large aircraft crashes today.

The Bone, there are a lot of automation failures you never hear about in aircraft. This B-1 sat at Midland TX airport for half a year while repairs were made while under 24 hour MP guard. They tried to eject after a turbine blew but a automation failure in the egress system left them with a blown hatch and no way to manually eject. The egress system is fully automated with no manual overides.
So they did a dicey emergency landing at Midland. With the wind blowing in through the missing hatch. Eventually it was repaired and flown back to Dreyfuss AB for further repairs. The failure also grounded all the other B-1s for many months. No other bomber in service can completely fill its mission role… so it was a big deal. You might say this Bone saved it’s self…

Hal:ā€œDave, what are you doing?
Dave… I can’t allow you to do this.ā€

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They actually never list the cause in the article you linked as far as I can see. Unless I’m missing something big it seems like you made up some noncence and linked an article hoping no one read it… The article says that the aircraft made an emergency landing and that upon landing one of the 4 hatches where blown and non of the seats had ejected. They explicitly explain that the investigation is ongoing and they could not comment on if the ejection sequence was attempted let alone that it was caused by a failed automation system.

Now I don’t know you so maybe you have further knowledge somehow beyond what the article states, so let’s be generous and assume you actually know they tried to eject and couldn’t because the system had no override. They pulled the ejection lever, 1 hatch opened and the chairs didn’t deploy. For one thing if the hatch fails to open I’m glad the seats stayed put. But also what manual override are you expecting, there are not many alternatives? Unclip and whack the other 3 hatches with a hammer? Then reach under the seat with a match to ignite the rocket and then clip in before it ejects?? A lever hooked up to 2 different sets of explosives with a delay and maybe some safety checks like for failed hatch ejection… Hardly a complex automation system… It’s sounds about as automated as your trusty old vans ignition… So hardly relevant to the discussion of complex tasks like driving or even aircraft autopilots.

Well at least you referenced something this time. Still nothing that in any way shows autopilot causes more issues than it solves. The article you linked shows ā€œAutomation is a double edged swordā€ in the preview (on my phone at least) well the next part of that quote is ā€œIt has certainly had tremendous benefits to safety and aviation. But there are some downsides to it as the technology gets complex.ā€ the article seems to be talking about a specific anti stall system that had a manual override but the pilots had not been trained correctly and couldn’t take over due to this. It mentioned a sensor falling, now in humans that’s the removal or breaking of a sense. Blind a pilot and see how safe they are… The fact that the human ā€œfailsafeā€ failed seems to be more the focus here.

I see you are now grouping training complacency in with the automation system failing which makes it more believable but still a bold statement with no backing evidence…

This quote of a fictional AI with some (I assume) top notch processing capabilities… Well it seems odd in contrast to statement about how AI will never match our ā€œprocessing abilitiesā€ never watched the film thought so hard to know of I’m getting the gist of your quote correctly.

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ohhhhh man, you should watch it some time. fantastic film. slow paced but still one of the best sci-fi films of all time!

and yes, HAL was an amazing AI but (minor spoiler) it was a simple logic error that made him go ā€œinsaneā€ so perhaps that was what they were getting at - though arguably, that was ultimately a human error :laughing:

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This is a wasp.


The purpose of a wasp is to die. Every time a wasp dies the universe becomes a slightly happier place. However: this is not the Highest Purpose of a wasp. The highest purpose of a wasp is to be killed. This makes the universe a significantly happier place.

Acceptable methods of wasp-icide include, but are not limited to…
Stomping.
Swatting.
Electrocuting.
Smashing.
Wasp sprays are also acceptable. But, it should be noted that off brand sprays are not useable. IE, use Raid brand, but not Hot Shot brand. Hot Shot is basically flavored water and will not produce acceptable levels of wasp death-y-ness.

This is a hornet.


A hornet is just a wasp in nice clothes. Kill on sight. Due to the upscale pretension of the hornet, it is highly recommended that you grind it under your heel, either pre or post mortem. This helps to remind all remaing hornets that they are, in reality, just fancy wasps.

This is a Murder Hornet.


The murder hornet, or more acurately ā€œDevil Waspā€, is a late arriving development in the great wasp wars.This is proof of the wasp’s escalatory nature of attack. However, it should be noted that technology is being martialed to the defence of mankind, soon to render wasp upgrades pointless. As proof of this, I offer the following video of a drone strike on a hive of wasp nefariousness.

It should be noted that the ground war against ants does not proceed as smoothly, even though it is just as effective.

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Did that once. Filled the main colony with black powder, poured petrol into the nest until it was full, and then lit it. Little flames came up all up the footpath where their nest had spread to. They stopped bothering us, though.

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Here in northern Finland, the mosquito season is in full swing. Yesterday, my colleagues and I had to stay outside on a footpath in the forest to test a couple of long-distance rangefinders (take measurements every 50 meters over 2.5 km). Needless to say, we’ve been mauled by the fucking mosquitoes. Sitting targets… I literally look deformed this morning, what with the bumps all over my body.

I could use some radical insect genocidal solution on the mosquitoes just now.

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that mosquito trap is awesome :laughing: :mosquito:

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Asian Giant Hornets! Calling them Murder Hornets is so mean, they’re fucking gorgeous creatures and honestly, I mean, more people are killed by cops and bees than giant hornets :yum:

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Ya, I went to my partner’s hometown in rural Manitoba in summer one year and I can’t say I’ve ever seen CLOUDS of mosquitoes before. It was … a new experience.

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Can you get DEET mosquito spray?


This is what we can buy here in Australia. The army airdrops it to flood-impacted communities in the aftermath. It’s bloody good, a little oily, but the standard mosquito spray doesn’t do shit anymore.

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That’s the stuff we have here:

25% DEET, and it don’t work that good on me who, for some reason, attracts mosquitoes like Hawaiian naval bases attract Zeros.

Well @anon3825968 it Sounds like you need to:

Not wear dark colours :male_detective:
Not have Type O blood :drop_of_blood:
Not breathe (CO²) :wind_face:
Not drink beer :beers:
Not eat bananas :banana:
Not be pregnant :pregnant_woman:

Then you should be less delicious to mozzies :mosquito:

Also not be emoji compatible it would seem…

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I wore a light tan short and a white shirt yesterday. So, check.

AB- here. I’m good. Check.

I’ve been holding my breath since the release of Stephen King’s last halfway decent novel. It’s been a while… so check.

Ouch. Got a bit of a problem there…

Check

If I carry on with the beer, the mosquitoes might just begin to think I am :slight_smile:

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Technology.

I remember seeing slomo videos of that experiment years ago. Still waiting for a product I can buy…

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Riding classy tonight.

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That is a cool looking bike :biking_man:
A lot going on there.
Seat springs, front suspension/shox but What is going on with the twisted wire on the top tube?